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[2a00:1450:4010:c04::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2si731382lbs.3.2016.01.25.20.05.27 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Jan 2016 20:05:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c04::236; Received: by mail-lb0-x236.google.com with SMTP id cl12so85192208lbc.1 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 20:05:27 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.112.35.162 with SMTP id i2mr7549389lbj.107.1453781127273; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 20:05:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.4.1 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 20:04:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <6f919681-f16c-4888-aa5a-30518a717c12@googlegroups.com> <569F85BF.8030909@gmx.de> <8805e2d3-4389-460c-9e5b-b0d5194da1c2@googlegroups.com> <56A51A50.7030306@gmx.de> From: Stela Selckiku Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 23:04:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {cukta} as a case study for why the dictionary needs clearer, more detailed entries To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Original-Sender: selckiku@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of selckiku@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=selckiku@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:12 PM, Andrew wrote: > > Probably the first step, then, should be to enforce the definition template > for all new words. Currently, I believe, the web form for entering new lujvo > into la jbovlaste encourages notes about the meanings of each sumti, but it > doesn't require it. If all new words suddenly had to fill in this more > complete template, it would assure that we have a finite number of words to > review. na'i You seem to be assuming that not putting words in the dictionary will mean they don't exist. Lojban is a living language with lots of unrecorded words of every sort. Minimizing rather than maximizing the words included in a dictionary would make that dictionary far less useful to someone trying to understand the real language. <3, mungojelly/selckiku -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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