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[2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e130si347955wme.2.2016.02.01.22.39.13 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Feb 2016 22:39:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f; Received: by mail-wm0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id p63so7128140wmp.1 for ; Mon, 01 Feb 2016 22:39:13 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.28.176.131 with SMTP id z125mr17010495wme.5.1454395153482; Mon, 01 Feb 2016 22:39:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.92.136 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Feb 2016 22:38:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0c5400d9-fec8-4215-8878-3918c043b226@googlegroups.com> References: <82905720-4d75-4196-9886-cc8c034d9f83@googlegroups.com> <6e9ca8d6-4dcc-4103-a990-4df0ffb16899@googlegroups.com> <56AF570C.1050409@gmail.com> <0c5400d9-fec8-4215-8878-3918c043b226@googlegroups.com> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 09:38:34 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=5Blojban=5D_The_experimental_version_of_Camxes=2DJS_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=94_=5Bfork_from_the_thread_=22Terminator_for_la=22=5D?= To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1141e05c7c88f4052ac3c21a X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1141e05c7c88f4052ac3c21a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2016-02-01 18:34 GMT+03:00 guskant : > The problem is that Gleki the dictator have been maintained the parser on > the official lojban.org server so that it fit to his personal beginner's > course, asserting that the grammar of experimental camxes-js is of new > Lojban, as if it were de facto standard, or would be official soon. > It's simply not true. > We can no more see that egocentric version of his personal beginner's > course, because he has already concealed the evidence. > Because it's not egocentric and on the contrary altruistic. What can even be egocentric in an activity for which personally I gain nothing. > The fact that Gleki's course reduced its egocentrism is an improved point, > though his dictatorship will not stop as long as he continues > administrating "vrici" server of lojban.org. > You simply don't understand who is administrating vrici. It's Robin. not me. You as well can get an account there and put everything relevant to Lojban you like. Actually the problem occurred as I wrote to Gleki: > You as well publish different unofficial resources on lojban.org The only reason for me to publish it there was and is to provide a faster way of accessing them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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= 2016-02-01 18:34 GMT+03:00 guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com>:
The problem is that Gleki the di= ctator have been maintained the parser on the official lojban.org server so that it fit to his per= sonal beginner's course, asserting that the grammar of experimental cam= xes-js is of new Lojban, as if it were de facto standard, or would be offic= ial soon.

It's simply not true.
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We can no more se= e that egocentric version of his personal beginner's course, because he= has already concealed the evidence.

= Because it's not egocentric and on the contrary altruistic.
W= hat can even be egocentric in an activity for which personally I gain nothi= ng.
=C2=A0
The fact tha= t Gleki's course reduced its egocentrism is an improved point, though h= is dictatorship will not stop as long as he continues administrating "= vrici" server of lojba= n.org.

You simply don't under= stand who is administrating vrici. It's Robin. not me. You as well can = get an account there and put everything relevant to Lojban you like.
<= div>
Actually the problem occ= urred as I wrote to Gleki:

You as we= ll publish different unofficial resources on = lojban.org

The only reason for me to publish it there was and is to provide a= faster way of accessing them.

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