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Yes, I meant within the same dictionary, and partly for the reason you
mentioned: semantic networks. To see which words aren't related to any
other words in the list.
Specifying the type of relationship between words would be interesting,
too, =C3=A0 la Wordnet.

stevo

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> 2016-02-02 17:02 GMT+03:00 MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com>:
>
>> Are there any orphan entries, i.e., ones that are not cross-referenced b=
y
>> any other entries?
>>
>
> In short this is just an interface to jbovlaste.lojban.org + some more
> databases like tatoeba.org and the crash course dictionary.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "orphan entries". You mean WITHIN the same
> dictionary like e.g. word {basfa} is not  referenced by any other word in
> the English-Lojban dictionary?
>
> Then yes, there are a lot of such words. Not sure how useful it'd be to
> have backlinks for every word.
>
> But it'd be nice to have every word to be linked to at least one word so
> that we can construct a semantic network for Lojban.
> Again this concept can be extended to "define every word in Lojban and
> construct a network of how close are every two words in their definitions
> based on
> 1st network. grammatical structure of their definitions (e.g. lo clani =
=3D
> lo to'e tordu, lo tordu =3D lo to'e clani)
> 2nd network. semantical structure of their definitions (e.g. "cat is an
> animal", "lion is an animal" so the two words must be somehow close
> semantically).
>
> One can add this to their todo lists.
>
>
>> stevo
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 2:22 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <
>> gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> http://lojban.github.io/sutysisku/
>>>
>>>
>>> Latest changes (since October 2015):
>>>
>>>    1. To increase stability it is now located at two new addresses:
>>>    http://lojban.github.io/sutysisku/ and https://lojban.herokuapp.com
>>>    2. Now loads faster
>>>    3. Some dictionaries now support search for word combinations:
>>>    http://lojban.github.io/sutysisku/jb/index.html#sisku/lo_na_se_viska
>>>    (not yet available for La Jbovlaste-based dictionaries)
>>>    4. when entering phrases it will provide translations for each of
>>>    the word
>>>    5. lujvo are decomposed (fuhivla rafsi supported)
>>>    6. compound cmavo are decomposed even if written without spaces
>>>    7. Regex search available: use "^" or "$" normal regex special
>>>    symbols to enable it. Can be useful for searching for rhymes, e.g. v=
ia
>>>    "ami$" (will result in {prami}, {slami}, {skami} ...)
>>>    8. Sorting results is now smarter (e.g. for equal relevance results
>>>    put cmavo and gismu higher).
>>>    9. You can use "h" instead of " ' " to search for words.
>>>    10. "Back" button to return to the desktop screen
>>>    11. Better interface on mobile devices
>>>    12. Breadcrumbs: by pressing on the "sutysisku" title you return to
>>>    the initial screen and can see your last searched words or word
>>>    combinations.
>>>    13. Spanish sutysisku added.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please note that previous addresses of la sutysisku from
>>> https://mw.lojban.org/extensions are no longer guaranteed to be
>>> constantly working due to periodic downtimes of mw.lojban.org. Please
>>> update your bookmarks to http://lojban.github.io/sutysisku/
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:courier =
new,monospace">Yes, I meant within the same dictionary, and partly for the =
reason you mentioned: semantic networks. To see which words aren&#39;t rela=
ted to any other words in the list.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"font-family:courier new,monospace">Specifying the type of relatio=
nship between words would be interesting, too, =C3=A0 la Wordnet.=C2=A0</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:courier new,monospace">=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:courier new,mon=
ospace">stevo</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.=
my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><span class=3D"">2016-02-02 17:02 GMT+03:00 MorphemeAddict <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lytlesw@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">lytlesw@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)=
;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"f=
ont-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace">Are there any orphan entries, i=
.e., ones that are not cross-referenced by any other entries?=C2=A0</div></=
div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>In short this is just an interf=
ace to <a href=3D"http://jbovlaste.lojban.org" target=3D"_blank">jbovlaste.=
lojban.org</a> + some more databases like <a href=3D"http://tatoeba.org" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">tatoeba.org</a> and the crash course dictionary.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>I&#39;m not sure what you mean by &quot;orphan entries&quot;=
. You mean WITHIN the same dictionary like e.g. word {basfa} is not =C2=A0r=
eferenced by any other word in the English-Lojban dictionary?</div><div><br=
></div><div>Then yes, there are a lot of such words. Not sure how useful it=
&#39;d be to have backlinks for every word.</div><div><br></div><div>But it=
&#39;d be nice to have every word to be linked to at least one word so that=
 we can construct a semantic network for Lojban.</div><div>Again this conce=
pt can be extended to &quot;define every word in Lojban and construct a net=
work of how close are every two words in their definitions based on=C2=A0</=
div><div>1st network. grammatical structure of their definitions (e.g. lo c=
lani =3D lo to&#39;e tordu, lo tordu =3D lo to&#39;e clani)</div><div>2nd n=
etwork. semantical structure of their definitions (e.g. &quot;cat is an ani=
mal&quot;, &quot;lion is an animal&quot; so the two words must be somehow c=
lose semantically).<br></div><div><br></div><div>One can add this to their =
todo lists.</div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;borde=
r-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace"><b=
r></div><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace">stevo</d=
iv></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><di=
v>On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 2:22 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.nam=
e@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left=
-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><a href=3D"http://lojban.github.io/sutysisku/" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://lojban.github.io/sutysisku/</a><br></div><div><br></div=
><div><br></div><div>Latest changes (since October 2015):</div><div><ol><li=
>To increase stability it is now located at two new addresses: <a href=3D"h=
ttp://lojban.github.io/sutysisku/" target=3D"_blank">http://lojban.github.i=
o/sutysisku/</a> and <a href=3D"https://lojban.herokuapp.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://lojban.herokuapp.com</a><br></li><li>Now loads faster<br></li>=
<li>Some dictionaries now support search for word combinations:=C2=A0<a hre=
f=3D"http://lojban.github.io/sutysisku/jb/index.html#sisku/lo_na_se_viska" =
target=3D"_blank">http://lojban.github.io/sutysisku/jb/index.html#sisku/lo_=
na_se_viska</a> (not yet available for La Jbovlaste-based dictionaries)<br>=
</li><li>when entering phrases it will provide translations for each of the=
 word</li><li>lujvo are decomposed (fuhivla rafsi supported)</li><li>compou=
nd cmavo are decomposed even if written without spaces</li><li>Regex search=
 available: use &quot;^&quot; or &quot;$&quot; normal regex special symbols=
 to enable it. Can be useful for searching for rhymes, e.g. via &quot;ami$&=
quot; (will result in {prami}, {slami}, {skami} ...)<br></li><li>Sorting re=
sults is now smarter (e.g. for equal relevance results put cmavo and gismu =
higher).<br></li><li>You can use &quot;h&quot; instead of &quot; &#39; &quo=
t; to search for words.<br></li><li>&quot;Back&quot; button to return to th=
e desktop screen<br></li><li>Better interface on mobile devices<br></li><li=
>Breadcrumbs: by pressing on the &quot;sutysisku&quot; title you return to =
the initial screen and can see your last searched words or word combination=
s.<br></li><li>Spanish sutysisku added.</li></ol><div><br></div></div><div>=
Please note that previous addresses of la sutysisku from=C2=A0<a href=3D"ht=
tps://mw.lojban.org/extensions" target=3D"_blank">https://mw.lojban.org/ext=
ensions</a> are no longer guaranteed to be constantly working due to period=
ic downtimes of <a href=3D"http://mw.lojban.org" target=3D"_blank">mw.lojba=
n.org</a>. Please update your bookmarks to <a href=3D"http://lojban.github.=
io/sutysisku/" target=3D"_blank">http://lojban.github.io/sutysisku/</a></di=
v></div></div></div><span><font color=3D"#888888"><span><font color=3D"#888=
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