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[2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ug8si583733igb.3.2016.02.03.14.56.15 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Feb 2016 14:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22d; Received: by mail-ob0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id ba1so49131525obb.3 for ; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 14:56:15 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.153.10 with SMTP id vc10mr4725507obb.10.1454540175052; Wed, 03 Feb 2016 14:56:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.58.3 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Feb 2016 14:55:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: MorphemeAddict Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 16:55:45 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la sutysisku, an offline-enabled Lojban dictionary app To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013a0996721808052ae586e4 X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --089e013a0996721808052ae586e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is what it says about its relations on its homepage. As for how it deals with these (i.e., nuts-and-bolts things like file formats), I have no idea. There is a contact email address on that page as well. stevo Relations The most frequently encoded relation among synsets is the super-subordinate relation (also called hyperonymy, hyponymy or ISA relation). It links more general synsets like {furniture, piece_of_furniture} to increasingly specific ones like {bed} and {bunkbed}. Thus, WordNet states that the category furniture includes bed, which in turn includes bunkbed; conversely, concepts like bed and bunkbed make up the category furniture. All noun hierarchies ultimately go up the root node {entity}. Hyponymy relation is transitive: if an armchair is a kind of chair, and if a chair is a kind of furniture, then an armchair is a kind of furniture. WordNet distinguishes among Types (common nouns) and Instances (specific persons, countries and geographic entities). Thus, armchair is a type of chair, Barack Obama is an instance of a president. Instances are always leaf (terminal) nodes in their hierarchies. Meronymy, the part-whole relation holds between synsets like {chair} and {back, backrest}, {seat} and {leg}. Parts are inherited from their superordinates: if a chair has legs, then an armchair has legs as well. Parts are not inherited =E2=80=9Cupward=E2=80=9D as they may be characteris= tic only of specific kinds of things rather than the class as a whole: chairs and kinds of chairs have legs, but not all kinds of furniture have legs. Verb synsets are arranged into hierarchies as well; verbs towards the bottom of the trees (troponyms) express increasingly specific manners characterizing an event, as in {communicate}-{talk}-{whisper}. The specific manner expressed depends on the semantic field; volume (as in the example above) is just one dimension along which verbs can be elaborated. Others are speed (move-jog-run) or intensity of emotion (like-love-idolize). Verbs describing events that necessarily and unidirectionally entail one another are linked: {buy}-{pay}, {succeed}-{try}, {show}-{see}, etc. Adjectives are organized in terms of antonymy. Pairs of =E2=80=9Cdirect=E2= =80=9D antonyms like wet-dry and young-old reflect the strong semantic contract of their members. Each of these polar adjectives in turn is linked to a number of =E2=80=9Csemantically similar=E2=80=9D ones: dry is linked to parched, arid= , dessicated and bone-dry and wet to soggy, waterlogged, etc. Semantically similar adjectives are =E2=80=9Cindirect antonyms=E2=80=9D of the contral member of= the opposite pole. Relational adjectives ("pertainyms") point to the nouns they are derived from (criminal-crime). There are only few adverbs in WordNet (hardly, mostly, really, etc.) as the majority of English adverbs are straightforwardly derived from adjectives via morphological affixation (surprisingly, strangely, etc.) Cross-POS relations The majority of the WordNet=E2=80=99s relations connect words from the same= part of speech (POS). Thus, WordNet really consists of four sub-nets, one each for nouns, verbs, adjectives and adverbs, with few cross-POS pointers. Cross-POS relations include the =E2=80=9Cmorphosemantic=E2=80=9D links that= hold among semantically similar words sharing a stem with the same meaning: observe (verb), observant (adjective) observation, observatory (nouns). In many of the noun-verb pairs the semantic role of the noun with respect to the verb has been specified: {sleeper, sleeping_car} is the LOCATION for {sleep} and {painter}is the AGENT of {paint}, while {painting, picture} is its RESULT. On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 12:46 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > 2016-02-02 20:20 GMT+03:00 MorphemeAddict : > >> Specifying the type of relationship between words would be interesting, >> too, =C3=A0 la Wordnet. >> > > I haven't noticed anything special in WordNet but probably because I have > only used its edition for noobs, not available xml files. > > How does it deal with types of relationships except for "synonym", > "hypernym", "hyponym"? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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This is what it says about its relations on its ho= mepage. As for how it deals with these (i.e., nuts-and-bolts things like fi= le formats), I have no idea. There is a contact email address on that page = as well.=C2=A0

stevo

Relations

The most frequently en= coded relation among synsets is the super-subordinate relation (also called= hyperonymy, hyponymy or ISA relation). It links more general synsets like = {furniture, piece_of_furniture} to increasingly specific ones like {bed} an= d {bunkbed}. Thus, WordNet states that the category furniture includes bed,= which in turn includes bunkbed; conversely, concepts like bed and bunkbed = make up the category furniture. All noun hierarchies ultimately go up the r= oot node {entity}. Hyponymy relation is transitive: if an armchair is a kin= d of chair, and if a chair is a kind of furniture, then an armchair is a ki= nd of furniture. WordNet distinguishes among Types (common nouns) and Insta= nces (specific persons, countries and geographic entities). Thus, armchair = is a type of chair, Barack Obama is an instance of a president. Instances a= re always leaf (terminal) nodes in their hierarchies.

Meronymy, the part-whole r= elation holds between synsets like {chair} and {back, backrest}, {seat} and= {leg}. Parts are inherited from their superordinates: if a chair has legs,= then an armchair has legs as well. Parts are not inherited =E2=80=9Cupward= =E2=80=9D as they may be characteristic only of specific kinds of things ra= ther than the class as a whole: chairs and kinds of chairs have legs, but n= ot all kinds of furniture have legs.

Verb synsets are arranged into hierarchies = as well; verbs towards the bottom of the trees (troponyms) express increasi= ngly specific manners characterizing an event, as in {communicate}-{talk}-{= whisper}. The specific manner expressed depends on the semantic field; volu= me (as in the example above) is just one dimension along which verbs can be= elaborated. Others are speed (move-jog-run) or intensity of emotion (like-= love-idolize). Verbs describing events that necessarily and unidirectionall= y entail one another are linked: {buy}-{pay}, {succeed}-{try}, {show}-{see}= , etc.

Adjectives are organized in terms of antonymy. Pairs of =E2=80=9Cdirect= =E2=80=9D antonyms like wet-dry and young-old reflect the strong semantic c= ontract of their members. Each of these polar adjectives in turn is linked = to a number of =E2=80=9Csemantically similar=E2=80=9D ones: dry is linked t= o parched, arid, dessicated and bone-dry and wet to soggy, waterlogged, etc= . Semantically similar adjectives are =E2=80=9Cindirect antonyms=E2=80=9D o= f the contral member of the opposite pole. Relational adjectives ("per= tainyms") point to the nouns they are derived from (criminal-crime).= =C2=A0
There are only few adverbs in WordNet (hardly, mostly, really, et= c.) as the majority of English adverbs are straightforwardly derived from a= djectives via morphological affixation (surprisingly, strangely, etc.)

<= h3 style=3D"color:rgb(75,48,7);font-size:1.25em;font-family:Helvetica,Arial= ,sans-serif;line-height:20px;background-color:rgb(231,231,231)">Cross-POS r= elations
The = majority of the WordNet=E2=80=99s relations connect words from the same par= t of speech (POS). Thus, WordNet really consists of four sub-nets, one each= for nouns, verbs, adjectives and adverbs, with few cross-POS pointers. Cro= ss-POS relations include the =E2=80=9Cmorphosemantic=E2=80=9D links that ho= ld among semantically similar words sharing a stem with the same meaning: o= bserve (verb), observant (adjective) observation, observatory (nouns). In m= any of the noun-verb pairs the semantic role of the noun with respect to th= e verb has been specified: {sleeper, sleeping_car} is the LOCATION for {sle= ep} and {painter}is the AGENT of {paint}, while {painting, picture} is its = RESULT.=C2=A0

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 12:46 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

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2016-02-02 20:20 GMT+03:00 MorphemeAddict <lytl= esw@gmail.com>:
Specifying t= he type of relationship between words would be interesting, too, =C3=A0 la = Wordnet.=C2=A0

I haven't noticed= anything special in WordNet but probably because I have only used its edit= ion for noobs, not available xml files.
How does it deal with types of relationsh= ips except for "synonym", "hypernym", "hyponym&quo= t;?

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