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From: Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Do Lojban and Loglan sound alike?
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On Monday, February 08, 2016 14:31:19 MorphemeAddict wrote:
> Exactly. That's why I specified "to a person who knows neither".
> 
> Aside from the apostrophe/h and more frequent sh/'c' sound, what's the real
> difference? They have the same word shapes, basically the same sounds. Is
> there any distinctive intonation pattern in either language?

I haven't heard much Loglan, so I'm not aware of the intonation pattern. I do 
know, though, that Lojban and Loglan differ in phonotactics. Loglan has words 
like "vizka", "fuacli", and "tsitoa" which contain sequences that don't occur 
in Lojban. ("fuacli" and "tsitoa" are both lujvo.)

Pierre
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li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa

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