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Thank you for your advices.

I think you've mistakenly sent this e-mail only to the Japanese mailing=20
list, so I hereby forward it to the main English list.

mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o

On 29/02/2016 10:59, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> I noticed that some people have trouble operating Skype.
> So here are the basic rules of a successful voice chat for Skype
>
> 1. Use a group where all potential speakers share their interest in=20
> the forthcoming conference in text form only. This group already=20
> exists. It's called {ko ciska po'o tavla ...} (meaning "Talk by=20
> writing only...") This group is only for planning, not for actual=20
> talking. Ask in this mail thread to add you there.
> 2. One person runs a desktop version of Skype and has good incoming=20
> and outcoming internet connection (~1Mbit/sec in both directions is fine)=
.
> 3. This person must add all interested people to his/her friend list=20
> and those people must confirm "friendship".
> 4. This person calls the first person and after successful connection=20
> drops other people into the chat window.
> 5. Please, everyone switch off your video by pressing on the video=20
> button so that it becomes crossed out.
> 6. Before any conference check your microphone and audio settings of=20
> Skype. Add "echo123" user (it's a bot) to your friend list, call it=20
> and follow the instruction. Change settings of your Skype client if=20
> necessary.
> 7. If you have noise around you during the conference or if other=20
> members notice a noise from your side switch off your microphone by=20
> pressing on the Microphone button so that it becomes crossed out.
>
> I think that as of now Skype is preferable since it has better voice=20
> compression and buffering mechanisms preventing clicks/pauses during=20
> conversation due to unstable internet connection. As of now it's=20
> unlikely that 100% of potential students of Lojban get normal internet=20
> connection. Many even change to mobile connection dropping the level=20
> of fast + stable internet connection even more.
>
> I should also note that QQ messenger used in China has been=20
> successfully tested by me several time with mainland China residents=20
> and it works okay. Just like Skype.
>
> Commercial clients win but explanations of that are outside the scope=20
> of this post.
>
>
> 2016-02-25 20:23 GMT+03:00 Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com=20
> <mailto:ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com>>:
>
>     coi ro do mi'e la .ilmen.
>
>     .i .ai co'a lo se tcika be li *pa mu pi'e ci no* bei lo *zeldei*
>     poi bavla'i bei UTC cu jundi fa mi *lo jbobau kumfa ku pe la
>     .skaip.* te zu'e lo nu vokta'a fo lo jbobau
>     .i va'o lo nu do djica lo nu do mi'a jbobau vokta'a kansa zo'u
>     .e'e do selplibregau *la .skaip.* gi'e co'a jundi *lo **jbobau
>     kumfa* gi'e jungau mi'a lo du'u do vokta'a kansa djica
>
>     I intend to attend the *Lojban room of Skype* for chatting vocally
>     in Lojban on next *Sun**day* (2016-02-28), beginning at *3:30PM
>     UTC* (New York: 10:30AM, Los Angeles: 7:30AM).
>     If you want to take part in our Lojban vocal chat, please have
>     your *Skype* ready, go to the *Lojban room*, and announce your
>     presence there.
>
>     =EF=BC=B5=EF=BC=B4=EF=BC=A3=E6=99=82=E9=96=93 =E5=B9=B42016=E6=9C=880=
2=E6=97=A528=E3=80=8115:30 =EF=BC=88=E3=81=A4=E3=81=BE=E3=82=8A=E3=80=81=E6=
=97=A5=E6=9C=AC=E6=99=82=E9=96=93 =E5=B9=B42016=E6=9C=8802=E6=97=A5
>     29=E3=80=8100:30=EF=BC=89=E3=81=AB=E5=A7=8B=E3=81=BE=E3=81=A3=E3=81=
=A6=E3=80=81=E5=8F=A3=E8=AA=9E=E3=83=AD=E3=82=B8=E3=83=90=E3=83=B3=E3=81=A7=
=E5=96=8B=E3=82=8B=E3=81=9F=E3=82=81=E3=81=AB=E7=A7=81=E3=81=AF *Skype* =E3=
=81=AE=E3=83=AD=E3=82=B8
>     =E3=83=90=E3=83=B3=E3=82=B0=E3=83=AB=E3=83=BC=E3=83=97=E3=81=AB=E5=87=
=BA=E3=82=8B=E3=81=A4=E3=82=82=E3=82=8A=E3=81=A7=E3=81=99=E3=80=82
>     =E5=8F=A3=E8=AA=9E=E3=83=AD=E3=82=B8=E3=83=90=E3=83=B3=E3=81=A7=E8=A9=
=B1=E3=81=97=E5=90=88=E3=81=86=E3=81=AE=E3=81=AB=E4=BC=B4=E3=81=84=E3=81=9F=
=E3=81=84=E3=81=AA=E3=82=89=E3=81=B0=E3=80=81 *Skype* =E3=81=AE=E6=BA=96=E5=
=82=99=E3=82=92=E3=81=97=E3=80=81=E3=83=AD
>     =E3=82=B8=E3=83=90=E3=83=B3=E3=82=B0=E3=83=AB=E3=83=BC=E3=83=97=E3=81=
=AB=E6=B3=A8=E7=9B=AE=E3=81=97=E3=81=A6=E5=87=BA=E5=B8=AD=E3=82=92=E7=99=BA=
=E8=A1=A8=E3=81=97=E3=81=A6=E3=81=8F=E3=81=A0=E3=81=95=E3=81=84=E3=80=82
>
>     mu'o
>

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    Thank you for your advices.<br>
    <br>
    I think you've mistakenly sent this e-mail only to the Japanese
    mailing list, so I hereby forward it to the main English list.<br>
    <br>
    mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o<br>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 29/02/2016 10:59, Gleki Arxokuna
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite=3D"mid:CAO7bV+iW0efKx+h-0AH91_jEyOJDZNMUjU_wKGXeAtBex_J_+g@mail.gmail.=
com"
      type=3D"cite">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">I noticed that some people have trouble operating
        Skype.
        <div>So here are the basic rules of a successful voice chat for
          Skype</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>1. Use a group where all potential speakers share their
          interest in the forthcoming conference in text form only. This
          group already exists. It's called {ko ciska po'o tavla ...}
          (meaning "Talk by writing only...") This group is only for
          planning, not for actual talking. Ask in this mail thread to
          add you there.</div>
        <div>2. One person runs a desktop version of Skype and has good
          incoming and outcoming internet connection (~1Mbit/sec in both
          directions is fine).</div>
        <div>3. This person must add all interested people to his/her
          friend list and those people must confirm "friendship".</div>
        <div>4. This person calls the first person and after successful
          connection drops other people into the chat window.</div>
        <div>5. Please, everyone switch off your video by pressing on
          the video button so that it becomes crossed out.</div>
        <div>6. Before any conference check your microphone and audio
          settings of Skype. Add "echo123" user (it's a bot) to your
          friend list, call it and follow the instruction. Change
          settings of your Skype client if necessary.</div>
        <div>7. If you have noise around you during the conference or if
          other members notice a noise from your side switch off your
          microphone by pressing on the Microphone button so that it
          becomes crossed out.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I think that as of now Skype is preferable since it has
          better voice compression and buffering mechanisms preventing
          clicks/pauses during conversation due to unstable internet
          connection. As of now it's unlikely that 100% of potential
          students of Lojban get normal internet connection. Many even
          change to mobile connection dropping the level of fast +
          stable internet connection even more.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I should also note that QQ messenger used in China has been
          successfully tested by me several time with mainland China
          residents and it works okay. Just like Skype.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Commercial clients win but explanations of that are outside
          the scope of this post.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class=3D"gmail_quote">2016-02-25 20:23 GMT+03:00 Ilmen <span
            dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
              href=3D"mailto:ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ilm=
en.pokebip@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
          <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><span class=3D""> coi=
 ro
                do mi'e la .ilmen.<br>
              </span>
              <div>
                <div><span class=3D""> <br>
                    .i .ai co'a lo se tcika be li <b>pa mu pi'e ci no</b>
                    bei lo <b>zeldei</b> poi bavla'i bei UTC cu jundi
                    fa mi <b>lo jbobau kumfa ku pe la .skaip.</b> te
                    zu'e lo nu vokta'a fo lo jbobau<br>
                    .i va'o lo nu do djica lo nu do mi'a jbobau vokta'a
                    kansa zo'u .e'e do selplibregau <b>la .skaip.</b>
                    gi'e co'a jundi <b>lo </b><b>jbobau kumfa</b> gi'e
                    jungau mi'a lo du'u do vokta'a kansa djica<br>
                    <br>
                  </span> I intend to attend the <b>Lojban room of
                    Skype</b> for chatting vocally in Lojban on next <b>Sun=
</b><b>day</b>
                  (2016-02-28), beginning at <b>3:30PM UTC</b> (New
                  York: 10:30AM, Los Angeles: 7:30AM).<span class=3D""><br>
                    If you want to take part in our Lojban vocal chat,
                    please have your <b>Skype</b> ready, go to the <b>Lojba=
n
                      room</b>, and announce your presence there.<br>
                    <br>
                  </span> =EF=BC=B5=EF=BC=B4=EF=BC=A3=E6=99=82=E9=96=93 =E5=
=B9=B42016=E6=9C=8802=E6=97=A528=E3=80=8115:30 =EF=BC=88=E3=81=A4=E3=81=BE=
=E3=82=8A=E3=80=81=E6=97=A5=E6=9C=AC=E6=99=82=E9=96=93
                  =E5=B9=B42016=E6=9C=8802=E6=97=A529=E3=80=8100:30=EF=BC=
=89=E3=81=AB=E5=A7=8B=E3=81=BE=E3=81=A3=E3=81=A6=E3=80=81=E5=8F=A3=E8=AA=9E=
=E3=83=AD=E3=82=B8=E3=83=90=E3=83=B3=E3=81=A7=E5=96=8B=E3=82=8B=E3=81=9F=E3=
=82=81=E3=81=AB=E7=A7=81=E3=81=AF <b>Skype</b>
                  =E3=81=AE=E3=83=AD=E3=82=B8=E3=83=90=E3=83=B3=E3=82=B0=E3=
=83=AB=E3=83=BC=E3=83=97=E3=81=AB=E5=87=BA=E3=82=8B=E3=81=A4=E3=82=82=E3=82=
=8A=E3=81=A7=E3=81=99=E3=80=82<br>
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=81=A7=E8=A9=B1=E3=81=97=E5=90=88=E3=81=86=E3=81=AE=E3=81=AB=E4=BC=B4=E3=81=
=84=E3=81=9F=E3=81=84=E3=81=AA=E3=82=89=E3=81=B0=E3=80=81 <b>Skype</b>
                  =E3=81=AE=E6=BA=96=E5=82=99=E3=82=92=E3=81=97=E3=80=81=E3=
=83=AD=E3=82=B8=E3=83=90=E3=83=B3=E3=82=B0=E3=83=AB=E3=83=BC=E3=83=97=E3=81=
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