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[69.168.97.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10si199833igg.1.2016.03.03.03.42.30 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 03 Mar 2016 03:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=69.168.97.48; X-Authed-Username: cGhtYUBodWdoZXMubmV0 X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=UtNaaYAB c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=5n1d6GSJGnnyfnXdd0Hfiw==:117 a=5n1d6GSJGnnyfnXdd0Hfiw==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=7OsogOcEt9IA:10 a=OTw7oCY714tSxTntMr4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 174.109.123.133 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bezitopo.org) Received: from [174.109.123.133] ([174.109.123.133:46117] helo=bezitopo.org) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id C6/57-05536-62328D65; Thu, 03 Mar 2016 06:42:30 -0500 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D20887C for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2016 06:42:28 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Pronunciation on "The Crash Course" Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2016 06:42:26 -0500 Message-ID: <8475997.LPDqs0XxzX@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-77-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mailfrom=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Wednesday, March 02, 2016 11:41:58 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > And, would "ya" in "yard" suffice? "ya" in "yard" is good for "ia", unless you r-color the vowel. There are too many variations in the pronunciation of vowels in English. I think it's better to explain the Lojban vowels in terms of Spanish, except "y". But there are a few Spanish speakers who pronounce vowels differently (I've read that they change vowel quality in front of /s/, and I've heard someone talk like that, but I haven't analyzed her speech to figure out exactly what she's doing). Pierre -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.