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[2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 71si107401wmp.0.2016.03.03.03.44.55 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 03 Mar 2016 03:44:55 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b; Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id p65so30680142wmp.1 for ; Thu, 03 Mar 2016 03:44:55 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.28.103.3 with SMTP id b3mr5032606wmc.65.1457005495760; Thu, 03 Mar 2016 03:44:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.91.210 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Mar 2016 03:44:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8475997.LPDqs0XxzX@caracal> References: <8475997.LPDqs0XxzX@caracal> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 14:44:16 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Pronunciation on "The Crash Course" To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114a91b202bcab052d238779 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Note: SpamAssassin invocation failed --001a114a91b202bcab052d238779 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2016-03-03 14:42 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat : > On Wednesday, March 02, 2016 11:41:58 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > And, would "ya" in "yard" suffice? > > "ya" in "yard" is good for "ia", unless you r-color the vowel. There are > too > many variations in the pronunciation of vowels in English. I think it's > better > to explain the Lojban vowels in terms of Spanish, except "y". But there > are a > few Spanish speakers who pronounce vowels differently (I've read that they > change vowel quality in front of /s/, and I've heard someone talk like > that, > but I haven't analyzed her speech to figure out exactly what she's doing). > In a course for polyglots definitely :) > > Pierre > -- > li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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2016-03-03 14:42 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>:
On Wednesday, Mar= ch 02, 2016 11:41:58 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> And, would "ya" in "yard" suffice?

"ya" in "yard" is good for "ia", unles= s you r-color the vowel. There are too
many variations in the pronunciation of vowels in English. I think it's= better
to explain the Lojban vowels in terms of Spanish, except "y". But= there are a
few Spanish speakers who pronounce vowels differently (I've read that t= hey
change vowel quality in front of /s/, and I've heard someone talk like = that,
but I haven't analyzed her speech to figure out exactly what she's = doing).

In a course for polyglots defin= itely :)
=C2=A0

Pierre
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