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[2607:f8b0:4002:c05::230]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x5si1597904ywb.2.2016.03.03.04.00.13 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 03 Mar 2016 04:00:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4002:c05::230 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4002:c05::230; Received: by mail-yw0-x230.google.com with SMTP id g127so15589648ywf.2 for ; Thu, 03 Mar 2016 04:00:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.42.69 with SMTP id q66mr1031479ywq.26.1457006413229; Thu, 03 Mar 2016 04:00:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.210.199 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Mar 2016 04:00:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <8475997.LPDqs0XxzX@caracal> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 05:00:13 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Pronunciation on "The Crash Course" From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1141eea4b23a90052d23bd2d X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4002:c05::230 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Note: SpamAssassin invocation failed --001a1141eea4b23a90052d23bd2d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 yacht, yawn, yadda (yadda), y'all, yawp On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:44 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > > 2016-03-03 14:42 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat : > >> On Wednesday, March 02, 2016 11:41:58 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: >> > And, would "ya" in "yard" suffice? >> >> "ya" in "yard" is good for "ia", unless you r-color the vowel. There are >> too >> many variations in the pronunciation of vowels in English. I think it's >> better >> to explain the Lojban vowels in terms of Spanish, except "y". But there >> are a >> few Spanish speakers who pronounce vowels differently (I've read that they >> change vowel quality in front of /s/, and I've heard someone talk like >> that, >> but I haven't analyzed her speech to figure out exactly what she's doing). >> > > In a course for polyglots definitely :) > > >> >> Pierre >> -- >> li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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yacht, yawn, yadda (yadda), y'all, yawp

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at= 4:44 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:


2016-03-03= 14:42 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>:
On Wednesday, March 02, 2016 11:41:58 Gleki = Arxokuna wrote:
> And, would "ya" in "yard" suffice?

"ya" in "yard" is good for "ia", unles= s you r-color the vowel. There are too
many variations in the pronunciation of vowels in English. I think it's= better
to explain the Lojban vowels in terms of Spanish, except "y". But= there are a
few Spanish speakers who pronounce vowels differently (I've read that t= hey
change vowel quality in front of /s/, and I've heard someone talk like = that,
but I haven't analyzed her speech to figure out exactly what she's = doing).

In a course for polyglot= s definitely :)
=C2=A0

Pierre
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