Received: from mail-vk0-f64.google.com ([209.85.213.64]:33488) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1aoCib-0002Ww-2v for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 09:23:46 -0700 Received: by mail-vk0-f64.google.com with SMTP id v68sf26297547vka.0 for ; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 09:23:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=sender:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=IGpb5WWSFmK2OxLfYnM6jML++s9IThpExsWVZhy6pxY=; b=oeI2QYhmCVviwEH+4hZNNvCDuhs59B/XAALaohPWsuzqmgNYtLAsTLMbKn27ElftUU 0Y/lldUxwTGJT62Ntm2he3lSgGIp+ov3EA3LBFkLSEZHsmY24KDflIoi9kB4x81Rf6bI +8XBawmNBd1nVpJZPVJrgunVquA3S3iCIjJFcV9GmHyk/UnKbqW0K+KdOQckiyBE6dzf W0SL1KLeyDwkpwtKBwuJAE2/2rpdNp8SpYDEToA3Ooa0S6oVM79+I50YQCLrZvNOWcAC WyCboQQmJ1ngrq9oDEwE+S5RRXeObQRcCNoze9QKWHM24nFRVIlLflGx2NKzIzNW/NDi J09Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=IGpb5WWSFmK2OxLfYnM6jML++s9IThpExsWVZhy6pxY=; b=JWxsjA9DSWy9VnPIHGfiY9nAM6azW+0DoDKPg8vWLBN7UCxs+CMsZrpzHkelsyXwbS CvUHAAq09rgQM84VX2h6v+0o6F0NrLCwX9vknwv4VnPIX7dtddGfvzTAQ03+2h6LKCJj d8wCv3ds7dl3lmFyGrgMHgrp73DyeZIRQgZk1FKwu0EYz9L1ocpQ62Dtm3UVxHpavn5r 3uP9aPI1XsvszVLLTzmHa/DGMfJeBhFv6NGBbG7/r9Y2u34wbSo7sjUek/RcndsfkV1p QjcDn9r9G+1GU/xtsaQ78+VvZuALIrrO1gPjvFKTriI+/r2xPCjH7P5XlKRx9U9KVWkt V3jg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=sender:x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=IGpb5WWSFmK2OxLfYnM6jML++s9IThpExsWVZhy6pxY=; b=QQZ4asfe/Whe0tzUyhG0vqBjE2HWalG/PVgf45M3H/U09jA1YPA07TZ7OgEHJD1y2E K9rgy4HqOZXl/ss22wNnxlFyL/AcMNT81zbnjIdfnA+oeK0tUSYG7faWxjTEUv4HWIyI hCt+SSitqv6Sga5ccxW1Nsq7dlo4M7xeyJ0EzfllhOb8nxleHof7wm7MRC2YCZAbzgGi unqJbEiRfmVFmp3rdVEk/YA3dORticbLXEmtPrmnDLbIA5JnQ6H3nzbfjcluxgKlzA5X UUGPb34iq2452v/clzqKlC8nWMxDErGdsMOGnUyGcZf/MwXqnMZ18QqlQrGdAcR+49BP 0tQw== Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJbeQijoWSKuOhJtnsYlTogeb6GDgNlHtq6txFNzYc4iDrCFnb+FJyaK+bPE3Mwiw== X-Received: by 10.182.27.8 with SMTP id p8mr42070obg.19.1460046214946; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 09:23:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.157.19.106 with SMTP id q39ls418578otq.80.gmail; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 09:23:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.102.73 with SMTP id fm9mr42123obb.9.1460046214590; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 09:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 09:23:34 -0700 (PDT) From: sunderland To: lojban Message-Id: <9a234bf9-fe9f-4739-9304-247cac3a4622@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] a lojban puzzle: omitting spaces FOR syntactic ambiguity, eg {la .xal. viskami} MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_378_359726630.1460046214052" X-Original-Sender: gatewaycat@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_378_359726630.1460046214052 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_379_1149247974.1460046214052" ------=_Part_379_1149247974.1460046214052 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Leaving out spaces around brivla is "against the rules." Cool things can happen when you do it anyway: {la .xal. viskami} = Hal is a nearby/this computer. = Hal sees me. {tumlatu} = That yonder is a cat. = The land is there yonder. {mi mabruna} = I'm not a mammal. = Whose brother am I? {mi sidju vofliba} = I help four failures. = I will helpfully fly it. {pano rectuca ma klama ti} = Where do the 102 teachers go? = When do the 10 meats come? {mosralo prami} = In what kind of Australian way do they love? = The lover rubs it. Finding the "ambiguous strings" is the boring part. Look for gismu where the initial CCV matches the final CVV and put them together to make CVCCVCV. Or concatenate (1) a gismu that ends in a CCV that is also a rafsi and either (2a) a rafsi that is also a cmavo, or (2b) any lujvo. (I have lists of these if you want.) Fitting the ambiguous strings into a sentence so that it works both ways is the puzzle part. 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Leaving out spaces around brivla is "against the rule= s." Cool things can happen when you do it anyway:

{la .xal. vi= skami}
=3D Hal is a nearby/this computer.
=3D Hal sees me.

= {tumlatu}
=3D That yonder is a cat.
=3D The land is there yonder. <= br>
{mi mabruna}
=3D I'm not a mammal.
=3D Whose brother am = I?

{mi sidju vofliba}
=3D I help four failures.
=3D I will = helpfully fly it.

{pano rectuca ma klama ti}
=3D Where do the 1= 02 teachers go?
=3D When do the 10 meats come?

{mosralo prami} =
=3D In what kind of Australian way do they love?
=3D The lover rubs= it.

Finding the "ambiguous strings" is the boring part. = Look for gismu where the initial CCV matches the final CVV and put them tog= ether to make CVCCVCV. Or concatenate (1) a gismu that ends in a CCV that i= s also a rafsi and either (2a) a rafsi that is also a cmavo, or (2b) any lu= jvo. (I have lists of these if you want.) Fitting the ambiguous strings int= o a sentence so that it works both ways is the puzzle part.

Can you= think of some nice ones?

mu'o mi'e .hanjing.

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