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[2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y4si1828865igw.2.2016.04.07.10.00.28 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Apr 2016 10:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d; Received: by mail-oi0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id s79so106466061oie.1 for ; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 10:00:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.157.14.183 with SMTP id 52mr1958071otj.83.1460048428507; Thu, 07 Apr 2016 10:00:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.77.227 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Apr 2016 09:59:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9a234bf9-fe9f-4739-9304-247cac3a4622@googlegroups.com> References: <9a234bf9-fe9f-4739-9304-247cac3a4622@googlegroups.com> From: Michael Turniansky Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 12:59:49 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] a lojban puzzle: omitting spaces FOR syntactic ambiguity, eg {la .xal. viskami} To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113dba10efdc27052fe80383 X-Original-Sender: Mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mturniansky@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - --001a113dba10efdc27052fe80383 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Check out this thread from four years ago: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lojban/bWGw1p7abf0 --gejyspa On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 12:23 PM, sunderland wrote: > Leaving out spaces around brivla is "against the rules." Cool things can > happen when you do it anyway: > > {la .xal. viskami} > = Hal is a nearby/this computer. > = Hal sees me. > > {tumlatu} > = That yonder is a cat. > = The land is there yonder. > > {mi mabruna} > = I'm not a mammal. > = Whose brother am I? > > {mi sidju vofliba} > = I help four failures. > = I will helpfully fly it. > > {pano rectuca ma klama ti} > = Where do the 102 teachers go? > = When do the 10 meats come? > > {mosralo prami} > = In what kind of Australian way do they love? > = The lover rubs it. > > Finding the "ambiguous strings" is the boring part. Look for gismu where > the initial CCV matches the final CVV and put them together to make > CVCCVCV. Or concatenate (1) a gismu that ends in a CCV that is also a rafsi > and either (2a) a rafsi that is also a cmavo, or (2b) any lujvo. (I have > lists of these if you want.) Fitting the ambiguous strings into a sentence > so that it works both ways is the puzzle part. > > Can you think of some nice ones? > > mu'o mi'e .hanjing. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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=C2=A0 Check out this thread from four years ago:=C2=A0https:/= /groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lojban/bWGw1p7abf0
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On Thu, Apr 7, 2= 016 at 12:23 PM, sunderland <gatewaycat@gmail.com> wrote:=
Leaving out spaces arou= nd brivla is "against the rules." Cool things can happen when you= do it anyway:

{la .xal. viskami}
=3D Hal is a nearby/this comp= uter.
=3D Hal sees me.

{tumlatu}
=3D That yonder is a cat. =
=3D The land is there yonder.

{mi mabruna}
=3D I'm not = a mammal.
=3D Whose brother am I?

{mi sidju vofliba}
=3D I = help four failures.
=3D I will helpfully fly it.

{pano rectuca = ma klama ti}
=3D Where do the 102 teachers go?
=3D When do the 10 m= eats come?

{mosralo prami}
=3D In what kind of Australian way d= o they love?
=3D The lover rubs it.

Finding the "ambiguous= strings" is the boring part. Look for gismu where the initial CCV mat= ches the final CVV and put them together to make CVCCVCV. Or concatenate (1= ) a gismu that ends in a CCV that is also a rafsi and either (2a) a rafsi t= hat is also a cmavo, or (2b) any lujvo. (I have lists of these if you want.= ) Fitting the ambiguous strings into a sentence so that it works both ways = is the puzzle part.

Can you think of some nice ones?

mu'= o mi'e .hanjing.

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