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[2a00:1450:4010:c07::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f7si469492lbf.0.2016.04.09.04.36.28 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Apr 2016 04:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c07::22f; Received: by mail-lf0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id j11so105141526lfb.1 for ; Sat, 09 Apr 2016 04:36:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.25.136.139 with SMTP id k133mr5317710lfd.157.1460201788193; Sat, 09 Apr 2016 04:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.105.168 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 04:36:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 12:36:28 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFtsb2piYW5dIMKrc2UgZ29pwrs=?= From: Bruno Panasiewicz To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113f3894e2c4b405300bb8fc X-Original-Sender: ciuak.prog@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ciuak.prog@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - --001a113f3894e2c4b405300bb8fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable coi la gleki I will do that now, thank you for replying. mi'e la .uakci mu'o ko klama pa stedu On 9 April 2016 at 12:31, Gleki Arxokuna wrote= : > Yes, it was once discussed and never got into the wiki. If you have time > plase make an article so that se goi is in the title with possibly > redirects from {se po} into it. > > 2016-04-09 13:52 GMT+03:00 Bruno Panasiewicz : > >> coi ro do >> The problem with =C2=ABgoi=C2=BB is that it is ambiguous=E2=80=94one can= not know which way >> the assignment goes. >> I was thinking about a nice solution, and found one. Basically, =C2=ABgo= i=C2=BB >> assigns the left sumti to the right one. If one wants to do it the other >> way around, he says =C2=ABse goi=C2=BB. For example: >> >> - *ko'a goi ko'e* =E2=80=93 it-1, from now on referred to as it-2; >> - *la .alis. se goi ti* =E2=80=93 Alice, which from now on refers to = this >> thing here. >> >> Actually, this syntax can work with any other GOI! I will throw more >> examples at you: >> >> - *lo vi ninmu se po lo junla* =E2=80=93 this woman here owning a wat= ch >> (=C2=ABpo=C2=BB: owned by..., =C2=ABse po=C2=BB: owning...); >> - lo vi nanmu se po'e lo panzi =E2=80=93 this man here having a child >> (=C2=ABpo'e=C2=BB: intrinsic property of..., =C2=ABse po'e=C2=BB: own= ing intrinsically...). >> >> What do you think? >> mi'e la .uakci mu'o >> zo =C2=ABcrocatra=C2=BB zo'o >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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coi la gleki<= /div>
I will do that now, thank you for replying.
mi'e la .uakci mu'o
ko klama pa stedu

On 9 April 2016 at 12:= 31, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wro= te:
Yes, it was once dis= cussed and never got into the wiki. If you have time plase make an article = so that se goi is in the title with possibly redirects from {se po} into it= .

2016-04-09 13:52 GMT+03:00 Bruno Panasiewicz <ciuak.prog@g= mail.com>:
c= oi ro do
The problem with =C2=ABgoi=C2=BB is that= it is ambiguous=E2=80=94one can not know which way the assignment goes.
I was thinking about a nice solution, and found one. Basic= ally, =C2=ABgoi=C2=BB assigns the left sumti to the right one. If one wants= to do it the other way around, he says =C2=ABse goi=C2=BB. For example:
  • ko'a goi ko'e =E2=80=93 it-1, from now on referred to as = it-2;
  • la .alis. se = goi ti =E2=80=93 Alice, which from now on refers to this thing here.
Actually, this syntax c= an work with any other GOI! I will throw more examples at you:
=
  • = lo vi ninmu se po lo junla =E2=80=93 this woman here owning a watch = (=C2=ABpo=C2=BB: owned by..., =C2=ABse po=C2=BB: owning...);
    • lo vi nanmu se po'e lo panzi =E2= =80=93 this man here having a child (=C2=ABpo'e=C2=BB: intrinsic proper= ty of..., =C2=ABse po'e=C2=BB: owning intrinsically...).What do you think?
mi'e la .uakci mu'o
= zo =C2=ABcrocatra= =C2=BB zo'o

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