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Subject: Re: [lojban] News in la sutysisku app. Rhyme dictionary
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2016-04-09 12:31 GMT+03:00 Bruno Panasiewicz <ciuak.prog@gmail.com>:

> coi la gleki
> .i mi .ei ckire do lo nu finti .i zabna sai .i ca'o pilno
> .i ta'o mi zgana tu'a su'o cfila .i zo kukte zo gugde rimni je'a .i ku'i
> lo me do moi na .arco ky. zi lo nu ciska gy.
>

i lo manri be lo te rimni cu vrici
i ie zo kukte ka'e rimni zo gugde i mi ja'e jai gau cnino i ko troci tu'a
zoi zoi.

https://lojban.github.io/sutysisku/en/index.html#sisku/@gugde

.zoi.


mi'e la .uakci mu'o
> ma xagmau .i zo djedei ji zo deidje
>
> On 6 April 2016 at 10:26, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Up till now Lojbanists had the following three main tools to search for
>> rhymes for Lojban words:
>>
>> 1. https://mw.lojban.org/papri/Rhymes_list
>> 2. https://mw.lojban.org/papri/Rhyming_alphabetical_list
>> 3. own human memory
>>
>> Here is a new tool that is a part of the new version of la sutysisku.
>>
>> https://lojban.github.io/sutysisku/en/index.html#sisku/saclu@
>>
>> To find rhymes add @ at the end or in the beginning of the word.
>>
>> It employs an algorithm written from scratch and exceeds the first two
>> tools in several ways:
>>
>> a. words with more precise rhymes are shown higher in the list.
>> b. phonemes closer to each other in their articulation are taken into
>> account. Thus for words ending in -e words ending in -i have a higher
>> priority that those ending in -u. Also {l} is similar to {r} so {saclu}
>> rhymes with {bacru} because {l} is close to {r}. With lower priority
>> {saclu} rhymes with {cacra} because the last letter is different.
>> c. To get the ultimate understanding please refer to the source code :)
>> https://github.com/lagleki/glekitufa/blob/master/i/sisku.js#L441
>>
>> Thus, rhymes to {saclu} are richer than those provided by earlier rhyme
>> lists.
>> We only had {kacma} and {racli} as suggestions. Now we have many more.
>>
>> Also note that outputting word combinations (that is fragments of text)
>> as results is not currently implemented as this first requires writing
>> better parsers of Lojban text than what is currently provided by PEG
>> parsers.
>>
>> Bonus:
>>
>> Interesting that when working on the algorithm for this app (to be used
>> for art purposes) another art project was born. It's an orthography more
>> strictly enabling audio-visual isomorphism:
>>
>> https://mw.lojban.org/papri/la_krulermorna
>>
>> It's both an art project and a part of the algorithm for searching rhymes.
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2016-04-09 12:31 GMT+03:00 Bruno Panasiewicz <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:ciuak.prog@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ciuak.prog@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border=
-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&#39;times new roman&#39;,serif;font-size:small"><font color=3D"#999999=
">coi la gleki</font></div><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;times new roman&#=
39;,serif;font-size:small">.i mi .ei ckire do lo nu finti .i zabna sai .i c=
a&#39;o pilno</div><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;times new roman&#39;,seri=
f;font-size:small">.i ta&#39;o mi zgana tu&#39;a su&#39;o cfila .i zo kukte=
 zo gugde rimni je&#39;a .i ku&#39;i lo me do moi na .arco ky. zi lo nu cis=
ka gy.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>i lo manri be lo te rimn=
i cu vrici=C2=A0</div><div>i ie zo kukte ka&#39;e rimni zo gugde i mi ja=
9;e jai gau cnino i ko troci tu&#39;a zoi zoi.</div><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"https://lojban.github.io/sutysisku/en/index.html#sisku/@gugde">http=
s://lojban.github.io/sutysisku/en/index.html#sisku/@gugde</a><br></div><div=
><br></div><div>.zoi.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;bo=
rder-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;times new roman&#39;,serif;=
font-size:small"><font color=3D"#999999">mi&#39;e la .uakci mu&#39;o</font>=
</div><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;times new roman&#39;,serif;font-size:s=
mall"><font color=3D"#f3f3f3">ma xagmau .i zo djedei ji zo deidje</font></d=
iv></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><di=
v class=3D"h5">On 6 April 2016 at 10:26, Gleki Arxokuna <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is=
.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;bo=
rder-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Up till now Lojbanists had the=
 following three main tools to search for rhymes for Lojban words:</div><di=
v><br></div><div>1.=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://mw.lojban.org/papri/Rhymes_list=
" target=3D"_blank">https://mw.lojban.org/papri/Rhymes_list</a></div><div>2=
.=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://mw.lojban.org/papri/Rhyming_alphabetical_list" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">https://mw.lojban.org/papri/Rhyming_alphabetical_list</a></=
div><div>3. own human memory</div><div><br></div><div>Here is a new tool th=
at is a part of the new version of la sutysisku.</div><div><br></div><div><=
a href=3D"https://lojban.github.io/sutysisku/en/index.html#sisku/saclu@" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">https://lojban.github.io/sutysisku/en/index.html#sisku/sacl=
u@</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>To find rhymes add @ at the end or in t=
he beginning of the word.</div><div><br></div><div>It employs an algorithm =
written from scratch and exceeds the first two tools in several ways:</div>=
<div><br></div><div>a. words with more precise rhymes are shown higher in t=
he list.<br></div><div>b. phonemes closer to each other in their articulati=
on are taken into account. Thus for words ending in -e words ending in -i h=
ave a higher priority that those ending in -u. Also {l} is similar to {r} s=
o {saclu} rhymes with {bacru} because {l} is close to {r}. With lower prior=
ity {saclu} rhymes with {cacra} because the last letter is different.</div>=
<div>c. To get the ultimate understanding please refer to the source code :=
) <a href=3D"https://github.com/lagleki/glekitufa/blob/master/i/sisku.js#L4=
41" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/lagleki/glekitufa/blob/master/i/si=
sku.js#L441</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thus, rhymes to {saclu} are ri=
cher than those provided by earlier rhyme lists.</div><div>We only had {kac=
ma} and {racli} as suggestions. Now we have many more.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Also note that outputting word combinations (that is fragments of text=
) as results is not currently implemented as this=C2=A0first=C2=A0requires =
writing better parsers of Lojban text than what is currently provided by PE=
G parsers.</div><div><br></div><div>Bonus:</div><div><br></div><div>Interes=
ting that when working on the algorithm for this app (to be used for art pu=
rposes) another art project was born. It&#39;s an orthography more strictly=
 enabling audio-visual isomorphism:<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D=
"https://mw.lojban.org/papri/la_krulermorna" target=3D"_blank">https://mw.l=
ojban.org/papri/la_krulermorna</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>It&#39;s bo=
th an art project and a part of the algorithm for searching rhymes.<span><f=
ont color=3D"#888888"><br></font></span></div></div></div></div><span class=
=3D""><font color=3D"#888888"><span><font color=3D"#888888">

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