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[204.29.186.7]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22si7862pfv.2.2016.05.03.09.07.33 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 03 May 2016 09:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of almikes@aol.com designates 204.29.186.7 as permitted sender) client-ip=204.29.186.7; Received: from mtaout-mcb02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mcb02.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.174]) by omr-m008e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 344B03800081 for ; Tue, 3 May 2016 12:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from W5.localdomain (p549F87D5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.159.135.213]) by mtaout-mcb02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 063D03800009C for ; Tue, 3 May 2016 12:07:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 18:07:28 +0200 From: "'Wuzzy' via lojban" To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFtsb2piYW5dIEhvdyB0byBzcGVjaWZ5IGRhdGVzIHdpdGgg4oCcZGV0cmnigJ0/?= Message-ID: <20160503180728.1a4f504e@W5.localdomain> In-Reply-To: References: <20160428233042.00eec890@W5.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32ae5728ccc36b7f X-AOL-IP: 84.159.135.213 X-Original-Sender: almikes@aol.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@mx.aol.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of almikes@aol.com designates 204.29.186.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=almikes@aol.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=aol.com X-Original-From: Wuzzy Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Am Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:30:43 +0300 schrieb Gleki Arxokuna : > "Lojban for Beginners" has this solution: > =E2=80=A2 If there is only one number, it is the day e.g. li pano is =E2= =80=98the > 10th=E2=80=99. =E2=80=A2 If there are two numbers, they are the day and m= onth e.g. > li pano pi=E2=80=99e pare is 10/12, or =E2=80=98the 10th of > December=E2=80=99. > =E2=80=A2 If there are three numbers, they are day, month, year (not mont= h, > day, year, as in the American > convention) e.g. li repa pi=E2=80=99e ze pi=E2=80=99e pasoxaso is 21/7/6= 9=E2=80=94the date > of the first moon landing Why isn't this (or something similar) in the official definition (or in the notes)? :-( I now had 3 different answers, each of them (more or less) contradicting each other. :-((( For insance, you say, the order is year, month, day, another one say its day, month, year because of ISO. Official definition also uses the day, month, year ordering. It's nice you all try to explain how detri is used =E2=80=9Cin actual usage= =E2=80=9D, but it seems that =E2=80=9Cactual usage=E2=80=9D varies to a great extent, = so it is not really useful. :-/ IMO we need a clear and well-defined OFFICIAL definition for detri, not several contradicting ad-hoc definitions. According to your answers so far, I can't even safely make sense out of something like =E2=80=9Cli pa pi'e re pi'e ci detri=E2=80=9D, because you d= on't seem to even agree on the ordering. :-( --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.