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[2a00:1450:4010:c04::229]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ai9si1247700lbc.2.2016.05.16.07.13.01 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 16 May 2016 07:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::229 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c04::229; Received: by mail-lb0-x229.google.com with SMTP id h1so50445737lbj.3 for ; Mon, 16 May 2016 07:13:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.89.197 with SMTP id bq5mr6134705lbb.90.1463407981388; Mon, 16 May 2016 07:13:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.165.75 with HTTP; Mon, 16 May 2016 07:12:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5739D470.1070805@openmailbox.org> References: <5738F503.9080501@openmailbox.org> <5739C981.3010803@openmailbox.org> <5739D470.1070805@openmailbox.org> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 17:12:21 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] zo remna To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3785ae46da60532f63827 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::229 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c3785ae46da60532f63827 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2016-05-16 17:08 GMT+03:00 Jacob Stewart : > > > On 16/05/16 14:51, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > Learning verbs is usually done in so called "frames". E.g. the place > structure of {xunre} - "to be red", {blabli} - "to be white" and other > colors coincide. In other words they belong to the same "frame". > > Animals are similar: {mlatu} - "to be a cat of species/breed x2", > {gerku} - "to be a dog of species/breed x2." Again the same frame. > > Humans have certain differences from other animals and these > differences were enough to make a new frame. > But why that particular frame? > Well, probably because they found no other places were required. "x1 is a human", that's all. > >Why? Because the creators of gimste just felt so. > Not a good enough reason. > Well, one cannot rewrite the history, can (s)he? > ma finti lo gimste? .i xu parodo joi zo'e? > .i la'o gy.James Cooke Brown.gy. pu finti lo loglo gismu .e lo smuvelcki be ri .i lo finti be la .lojban. pu pilno lo loglo gimste lo ka finti lo lojbo gimste > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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2016-05-16 17:08 GMT+03:00 Jacob Stewart <jstewart@openmailbox= .org>:

On 16/05/16 14:51, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> Learning verbs is usually done in so called "frames". E.g. t= he place
structure of {xunre} - "to be red", {blabli} - "to be white&= quot; and other
colors coincide. In other words they belong to the same "frame".<= br> > Animals are similar: {mlatu} - "to be a cat of species/breed x2&q= uot;,
{gerku} - "to be a dog of species/breed x2." Again the same frame= .
> Humans have certain differences from other animals and these
differences were enough to make a new frame.
But why that particular frame?

W= ell, probably because they found no other places were required. "x1 is= a human", that's all.

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>Why? Because the creators of gimste just felt so.
Not a good enough reason.

Well, = one cannot rewrite the history, can (s)he?
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ma finti lo gimste? .i xu parodo joi zo'e?

.i la'o gy.James Cooke Brown.gy. pu finti lo loglo gismu .e lo = smuvelcki be ri .i lo finti be la .lojban. pu pilno lo loglo gimste lo ka f= inti lo lojbo gimste

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