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[2a00:1450:4010:c07::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u7si574824lbo.3.2016.06.06.08.23.30 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Jun 2016 08:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c07::22f; Received: by mail-lf0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id b73so96798849lfb.3 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2016 08:23:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.25.77.129 with SMTP id a123mr1313479lfb.3.1465226610219; Mon, 06 Jun 2016 08:23:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.157.147 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 08:23:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <697d5574-8704-6789-8cc2-bd770575dfd6@gmx.de> References: <8be1ba79-4cf3-4bee-9feb-bd45eaa30783@googlegroups.com> <697d5574-8704-6789-8cc2-bd770575dfd6@gmx.de> From: Bruno Panasiewicz Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:23:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] A java lujvo creator (luvzba) To: mriste Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1141eeb89e250c05349da7ab X-Original-Sender: ciuak.prog@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ciuak.prog@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1141eeb89e250c05349da7ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 6 June 2016 at 17:08, selpahi wrote: > On 06.06.2016 16:43, la pluja wrote: > >> To make a long story short: >> Yesterday I tried to install*jvocu'adju* >> to determine some >> new lujvo (I do personally not like fu'ivla..). >> The original jbofi'e would for some reason not compile on my PC (Windows >> argh) so I started hacking together my own thing, working with java, >> thus on my opinion much easier to compile. >> aand.. >> there it is >> (https://gitlab.com/nielstron/luvzba/) >> > > Cool. > > Btw, have you heard of jvozba? ( > http://jwodder.freeshell.org/lojban/jvozba.cgi) > > Please if you find any errors/ problems with this program let me know! >> I'm not interested in distributing code that contains errors.. >> > > Actually, {jvozba} has a better (lower) score than {luvzba} because CCV > rafsi get a smaller penalty than CVC rafsi. > > ~~~mi'e la selpa'i (who knows the scoring algorithm by heart) Me too. Anyway, the whole idea is not very good -- the algorithm's stuck at O(e^n), which is possibly the worst score you'd get. I once wrote a O(n) algo, but I've lost it. Anyway, I think I'm going to write it again, because we're lacking good lujvo algorithms. [My target language is JavaScript, btw.] -- mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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On 6 June 2016 at 17:08, selpahi <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
On 06.06.2016 16:43, la pl= uja wrote:
To make a long story short:
Yesterday I tried to install*jvocu'adju*
<http://www.rpcurnow.force9.co.uk/jbofihe/inde= x.html> to determine some
new lujvo (I do personally not like fu'ivla..).
The original jbofi'e would for some reason not compile on my PC (Window= s
argh) so I started hacking together my own thing, working with java,
thus on my opinion much easier to compile.
aand..
there it is <https://gitlab.com/nielstron/luvzba/>
(https://gitlab.com/nielstron/luvzba/)

Cool.

Btw, have you heard of jvozba? (http://jwodder.freeshe= ll.org/lojban/jvozba.cgi)

Please if you find any errors/ problems with this program let me know!
I'm not interested in distributing code that contains errors..

Actually, {jvozba} has a better (lower) score than {luvzba} because CCV raf= si get a smaller penalty than CVC rafsi.

~~~mi'e la selpa'i (who knows the scoring algorithm by heart)

Me too.

Anyway, the whole idea= is not very good -- the algorithm's stuck at O(e^n), which is possibly= the worst score you'd get. I once wrote a O(n) algo, but I've lost= it. Anyway, I think I'm going to write it again, because we're lac= king good lujvo algorithms. [My target language is JavaScript, btw.]
-- mu'o

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