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On Sunday, June 05, 2016 02:47:44 MorphemeAddict wrote:
> This also means that a molecule with three or more different kinds of ato=
ms
> can't be called an "-ide".

Not quite true; ammonium (NH4) and cyanogen (C2N2) are often treated as if=
=20
they were elements. Ammonium cyanide has three kinds of atoms.

There's a set of affixes for indicating how many oxygen atoms are in an=20
inorganic acid or salt thereof, but the number of oxygens (except for -ide,=
=20
which is 0) is not constant over elements. (Carbon is treated inconsistentl=
y:=20
carbonic acid is treated as inorganic, but the acid with one fewer oxygen i=
s=20
treated as organic and called formic, not carbonous.)
hydropelonic acid -> pelonide
hypopelonous acid -> hypopelonite
pelonous acid -> pelonite
pelonic acid -> pelonate
perpelonic acid -> perpelonate.

Pierre
--=20
La sal en el mar es m=C3=A1s que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.

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