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[2a00:1450:4010:c07::22a]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b77si106770wmb.1.2016.07.29.01.51.23 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 29 Jul 2016 01:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::22a as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c07::22a; Received: by mail-lf0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id f93so66579183lfi.2 for ; Fri, 29 Jul 2016 01:51:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.46.1.163 with SMTP id f35mr14065571lji.52.1469782283296; Fri, 29 Jul 2016 01:51:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.3.203 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jul 2016 01:51:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruno Panasiewicz Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 10:51:22 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] -bom-/-nom- & KE To: mriste Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1142b5e2e4a7240538c25a2e X-Original-Sender: ciuak.prog@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ciuak.prog@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1142b5e2e4a7240538c25a2e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 coi jbopre I was thinking about -bom- and -nom-. You may or may not know what those rafsi do, so I'll explain them here. -bom- and -nom- surround an arbitrary number of rafsi in a lujvo, and turn it into a name. One of them can be safely omitted when at the beginning or end. For example: [kurty-nom]-vla = me la .kurt. valsi (whatever the kurtV gismu is); or [bom-di'a] = me la dirba (actually, this'd mean "'dear'" in English - as if it were in quotes). We can think about -bom- and -nom- as ke and ke'e - one can skip -kem- or -kep-/-ke'e- in a lujvo when the parenthesized part is at the end or at the beginning. So if -bom- works like ke, it should be a rafsi of a cmavo of KE! Here's the question: would it be useful to have a KE that works like -bom-/-nom- - turns the enclosed selbrisle into a selbrisle, the meaning of which is the thing named by those selbrisle? ~ mi'e la uakci mu'o re'i .e'e sai -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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coi jbopre

I was thinking about -bom- and -nom-.
<= /div>
You may or may not know what those rafsi do, so I'll explain them here= .
-bom- and -nom- surround an arbitrary number of rafsi in a lujvo,
and turn it into a name. One of them can be safely omitted when at the
beginning or end. For example: [kurty-nom]-vla =3D me la .kurt. valsi
(whatever the kurtV gismu is); or [bom-di'a] =3D me la dirba (actua= lly,
this'd mean "'dear'" in English - as if it = were in quotes).

We can think about -bom- and -nom- as ke and ke&#= 39;e - one can skip -kem-
or -kep-/-ke'e- in a lujvo when the pare= nthesized part is at the end
or at the beginning. So if -bom- works li= ke ke, it should be a rafsi
of a cmavo of KE!

Here's the= question: would it be useful to have a KE that works like
-bom-/-nom-= - turns the enclosed selbrisle into a selbrisle, the
meaning of whi= ch is the thing named by those selbrisle?

~ mi'e la uakci mu&#= 39;o re'i .e'e sai

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