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[95.210.223.155]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id z18sm22589wmz.6.2016.08.08.14.10.22 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 08 Aug 2016 14:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [lojban] taking action To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: From: Ilmen Message-ID: <93aeae95-7ac5-823a-809e-6599f71f8ca5@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 23:10:16 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D8782BC8D506458C4E4492DD" X-Original-Sender: ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::244 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D8782BC8D506458C4E4492DD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As for the Crash Course, the link is:=20 https://mw.lojban.org/papri/The_Crash_Course_(a_draft)=20 =E2=80=94Ilmen. On 08/08/2016 23:00, Bruno Panasiewicz wrote: > > On Aug 8, 2016 8:49 PM, "Jonathan Jones" > wrote: > > > > To the things you mentioned. Until this, I'd never heard of either. > > That's bad news. The 'Interactive Story' script is out there for a few=20 > years, and I think it's mentioned in many enough places. The Story of=20 > Norman is a mail thread (=C2=ABlo lisri pe la .norman. zi'e pe lo si'o=20 > nunjikca ru'e lisri=C2=BB) spanning over six weeks and twenty posts. How= =20 > come didn't you notice? le'o > > =E2=80=94 mi'e mi ra'u mu'o > > > > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Bruno Panasiewicz=20 > > wrote: > >> > >> To? > >> > >> On 8 August 2016 at 10:04, Jonathan Jones > wrote: > >>> > >>> Links? > >>> > >>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Bruno Panasiewicz=20 > > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi there. > >>>> > >>>> I'm recently worried too much about that not much is currently=20 > happening. I imagine a perfect Lojbanic community as a place where=20 > people do lots of translations and projects and such. What I see is=20 > the opposite: a place where everyone is stingy about helping, talking,=20 > writing, and complains about it. > >>>> Up to this point, this email really IS a complaint; now I want to=20 > propose something that would solve the problem. I think there should=20 > be a place for people to volunteer to other projects. Everyone that=20 > needs help or wants to start a community project would be welcome. > >>>> I'm utterly amazed about the Crash Course: it's a one man=20 > project, and I think it's worth recognition and work from others. Most=20 > projects could be completed within a few days or weeks if every=20 > Lojbanist wrote one line of Lojban/English every day. > >>>> I'd like to work on some way to make the community more active,=20 > and not just a random arrangement of people with their own lives. > >>>> > >>>> One last question: why does nobody develop the Interactive Story?=20 > Please add something to it. > >>>> > >>>> =E2=80=94 mi'e la uakci mu'o > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the=20 > Google Groups "lojban" group. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,=20 > send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com=20 > . > >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com=20 > . > >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. > >>> > >>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > >>> (Come to the Dot Side! 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As for the Crash Course, the link is: https://mw.lojban.org/papri/The_Crash_Course_(a_draft)

=E2=80=94Ilmen.

On 08/08/2016 23:00, Bruno Panasiewicz wrote:

On Aug 8, 2016 8:49 PM, "Jonathan Jones" <eyeonu= s@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> To the things you mentioned. Until this, I'd never heard of either.

That's bad news. The 'Interactive Story' script is out there for a few years, and I think it's mentioned in many enough places. The Story of Norman is a mail thread (=C2=ABlo lisri pe la .norman. zi'e pe lo si'o nunjikca ru'e lisri=C2=BB) spanning over six weeks and twenty posts. How come didn't you notice? le'o

=E2=80=94 mi'e mi ra'u mu'o

>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Bruno Panasiewicz <ciu= ak.prog@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> To?
>>
>> On 8 August 2016 at 10:04, Jonathan Jones <eyeonu= s@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Links?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Bruno Panasiewicz <ciuak.prog@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi there.
>>>>
>>>> I'm recently worried too much about that not much is currently happening. I imagine a perfect Lojbanic community as a place where people do lots of translations and projects and such. What I see is the opposite: a place where everyone is stingy about helping, talking, writing, and complains about it.
>>>> Up to this point, this email really IS a complaint; now I want to propose something that would solve the problem. I think there should be a place for people to volunteer to other projects. Everyone that needs help or wants to start a community project would be welcome.
>>>> I'm utterly amazed about the Crash Course: it's a one man project, and I think it's worth recognition and work from others. Most projects could be completed within a few days or weeks if every Lojbanist wrote one line of Lojban/English every day.
>>>> I'd like to work on some way to make the community more active, and not just a random arrangement of people with their own lives.
>>>>
>>>> One last question: why does nobody develop the Interactive Story? Please add something to it.
>>>>
>>>> =E2=80=94 mi'e la uakci mu'o
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>>>
>>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
>>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >>>
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> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
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