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I would be more than happy to offer small monetary rewards for community in=
volvement, such as contributing translations, flashcards, stories, poems or=
 diary entries - including from learners. One idea is that a bounty could b=
e given to a random contributor over a week or so. The condition would be t=
hat all work submitted would be with the CC0 content licence or similar.


If anyone knows a system that is good for facilitating something like this,=
 let me know.


I have found https://www.bountysource.com/ but it looks like it needs GitHu=
b or similar (at the moment) which might be a barrier to many possible cont=
ributors. Maybe we could make a hub for all the community projects using a =
supported platform?


I have also found https://www.patreon.com/ but it seems more for regular in=
dividual creators, rather than once-off "competitions". That said, I would =
be interested in supporting some regular contributors in this way too.

I haven't used any of these before but it was just an idea. I am not yet ad=
vanced enough in Lojban to easily contribute directly.

________________________________
From: lojban@googlegroups.com <lojban@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Bruno =
Panasiewicz <ciuak.prog@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, 8 August 2016 7:00 AM
To: mriste
Subject: [lojban] taking action


Hi there.

I'm recently worried too much about that not much is currently happening. I=
 imagine a perfect Lojbanic community as a place where people do lots of tr=
anslations and projects and such. What I see is the opposite: a place where=
 everyone is stingy about helping, talking, writing, and complains about it=
.
Up to this point, this email really IS a complaint; now I want to propose s=
omething that would solve the problem. I think there should be a place for =
people to volunteer to other projects. Everyone that needs help or wants to=
 start a community project would be welcome.
I'm utterly amazed about the Crash Course: it's a one man project, and I th=
ink it's worth recognition and work from others. Most projects could be com=
pleted within a few days or weeks if every Lojbanist wrote one line of Lojb=
an/English every day.
I'd like to work on some way to make the community more active, and not jus=
t a random arrangement of people with their own lives.

One last question: why does nobody develop the Interactive Story? Please ad=
d something to it.

- mi'e la uakci mu'o

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<p>I would be more than happy to offer small monetary&nbsp;rewards for comm=
unity involvement, such as contributing translations, flashcards, stories,&=
nbsp;poems or diary entries - including&nbsp;from learners. One idea is tha=
t&nbsp;a bounty could be given to a random contributor
 over a week or so. The condition would be that all work submitted would be=
 with the CC0 content licence or similar.</p>
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<p>If anyone knows a system that is good for facilitating something like&nb=
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<p>I have found&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://www.bountysource.com/" class=3D"OWA=
AutoLink" id=3D"LPlnk31688">https://www.bountysource.com/</a>&nbsp;but it l=
ooks like it needs GitHub or similar (at the moment) which might be a barri=
er to many possible contributors. Maybe we could
 make a hub for all the community&nbsp;projects using a supported platform?=
</p>
<p><br>
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<p>I have also found&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://www.patreon.com/" class=3D"OWA=
AutoLink" id=3D"LPlnk108059">https://www.patreon.com/</a>&nbsp;but it seems=
 more for regular individual&nbsp;creators, rather than once-off &quot;comp=
etitions&quot;. That said, I would be interested in supporting
 some regular contributors in this way too.</p>
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I haven't used any of these before but it was just an idea. I am not yet ad=
vanced enough&nbsp;in Lojban to easily contribute directly.
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 8 August 2016 7:00 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [lojban] taking action</font>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Hi there.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">I'm recently worried too much about that not much is current=
ly happening. I imagine a perfect Lojbanic community as a place where peopl=
e do lots of translations and projects and such. What I see is the opposite=
: a place where everyone is stingy
 about helping, talking, writing, and complains about it.<br>
Up to this point, this email really IS a complaint; now I want to propose s=
omething that would solve the problem. I think there should be a place for =
people to volunteer to other projects. Everyone that needs help or wants to=
 start a community project would
 be welcome.<br>
I'm utterly amazed about the Crash Course: it's a one man project, and I th=
ink it's worth recognition and work from others. Most projects could be com=
pleted within a few days or weeks if every Lojbanist wrote one line of Lojb=
an/English every day.<br>
I'd like to work on some way to make the community more active, and not jus=
t a random arrangement of people with their own lives.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">One last question: why does nobody develop the Interactive S=
tory? Please add something to it.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">&#8212; mi'e la uakci mu'o</p>
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