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[2607:f8b0:4002:c05::235]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f206si2419867ywb.6.2016.08.09.00.04.21 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Aug 2016 00:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4002:c05::235 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4002:c05::235; Received: by mail-yw0-x235.google.com with SMTP id z8so2278619ywa.1 for ; Tue, 09 Aug 2016 00:04:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.129.81.85 with SMTP id f82mr73333568ywb.300.1470726260950; Tue, 09 Aug 2016 00:04:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.77.87 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 00:04:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jonathan Jones Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 01:04:20 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] taking action To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11456bae588ec305399e2468 X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4002:c05::235 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=eyeonus@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11456bae588ec305399e2468 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I haven't really been paying attention to anything Lojban in a few years. The in-fighting got on my nerves too much, and that lack of anyone local to talk to made me lose pretty much all interest. On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Bruno Panasiewicz wrote: > On Aug 8, 2016 8:49 PM, "Jonathan Jones" wrote: > > > > To the things you mentioned. Until this, I'd never heard of either. > > That's bad news. The 'Interactive Story' script is out there for a few > years, and I think it's mentioned in many enough places. The Story of > Norman is a mail thread (=C2=ABlo lisri pe la .norman. zi'e pe lo si'o nu= njikca > ru'e lisri=C2=BB) spanning over six weeks and twenty posts. How come didn= 't you > notice? le'o > > =E2=80=94 mi'e mi ra'u mu'o > > > > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Bruno Panasiewicz > wrote: > >> > >> To? > >> > >> On 8 August 2016 at 10:04, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >>> > >>> Links? > >>> > >>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Bruno Panasiewicz < > ciuak.prog@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi there. > >>>> > >>>> I'm recently worried too much about that not much is currently > happening. I imagine a perfect Lojbanic community as a place where people > do lots of translations and projects and such. What I see is the opposite= : > a place where everyone is stingy about helping, talking, writing, and > complains about it. > >>>> Up to this point, this email really IS a complaint; now I want to > propose something that would solve the problem. I think there should be a > place for people to volunteer to other projects. Everyone that needs help > or wants to start a community project would be welcome. > >>>> I'm utterly amazed about the Crash Course: it's a one man project, > and I think it's worth recognition and work from others. Most projects > could be completed within a few days or weeks if every Lojbanist wrote on= e > line of Lojban/English every day. > >>>> I'd like to work on some way to make the community more active, and > not just a random arrangement of people with their own lives. > >>>> > >>>> One last question: why does nobody develop the Interactive Story? > Please add something to it. > >>>> > >>>> =E2=80=94 mi'e la uakci mu'o > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "lojban" group. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. > >>> > >>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > >>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "lojban" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, sen= d > an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "lojban" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "lojban" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11456bae588ec305399e2468 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I haven't really been paying attention to anything Loj= ban in a few years. The in-fighting got on my nerves too much, and that lac= k of anyone local to talk to made me lose pretty much all interest.

On Mon, Aug 8, = 2016 at 3:00 PM, Bruno Panasiewicz <ciuak.prog@gmail.com>= wrote:

O= n Aug 8, 2016 8:49 PM, "Jonathan Jones" <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> To the things you mentioned. Until this, I'd never heard of either= .

That's bad news. The 'Interactive Story' = script is out there for a few years, and I think it's mentioned in many= enough places. The Story of Norman is a mail thread (=C2=ABlo lisri pe la = .norman. zi'e pe lo si'o nunjikca ru'e lisri=C2=BB) spanning ov= er six weeks and twenty posts. How come didn't you notice? le'o

=E2=80=94 mi'e mi ra'u mu'o

>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Bruno Panasiewicz <ciuak.prog@gmail.com> wrot= e:
>>
>> To?
>>
>> On 8 August 2016 at 10:04, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Links?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Bruno Panasiewicz <ciuak.prog@gmail.com= > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi there.
>>>>
>>>> I'm recently worried too much about that not much is c= urrently happening. I imagine a perfect Lojbanic community as a place where= people do lots of translations and projects and such. What I see is the op= posite: a place where everyone is stingy about helping, talking, writing, a= nd complains about it.
>>>> Up to this point, this email really IS a complaint; now I = want to propose something that would solve the problem. I think there shoul= d be a place for people to volunteer to other projects. Everyone that needs= help or wants to start a community project would be welcome.
>>>> I'm utterly amazed about the Crash Course: it's a = one man project, and I think it's worth recognition and work from other= s. Most projects could be completed within a few days or weeks if every Loj= banist wrote one line of Lojban/English every day.
>>>> I'd like to work on some way to make the community mor= e active, and not just a random arrangement of people with their own lives.=
>>>>
>>>> One last question: why does nobody develop the Interactive= Story? Please add something to it.
>>>>
>>>> =E2=80=94 mi'e la uakci mu'o
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to th= e Google Groups "lojban" group.
>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails f= rom it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
>>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban<= /a>.
>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.=
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>>>
>>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi pat= fu do zo'o
>>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>>>
>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go= ogle Groups "lojban" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from = it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban.=
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>>
>> --
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>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, = send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
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>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
>
>
>
> --
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo= 'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>
> --
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> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

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.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi p= atfu do zo'o
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