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[2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i198si75445wmd.2.2016.08.09.02.12.55 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Aug 2016 02:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f; Received: by mail-wm0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id i5so17522267wmg.0 for ; Tue, 09 Aug 2016 02:12:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.25.24.153 with SMTP id 25mr25374861lfy.103.1470733975004; Tue, 09 Aug 2016 02:12:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.3.203 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 02:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.3.203 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 02:12:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Bruno Panasiewicz Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 11:12:53 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] taking action To: mriste Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11401a5823abea05399ff008 X-Original-Sender: ciuak.prog@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ciuak.prog@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11401a5823abea05399ff008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Aug 9, 2016 9:04 AM, "Jonathan Jones" wrote: > > I haven't really been paying attention to anything Lojban in a few years. The in-fighting got on my nerves too much, and that lack of anyone local to talk to made me lose pretty much all interest. Well then, I hope that your interest will rise up again! =E2=80=94 mi'e uy > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Bruno Panasiewicz wrote: >> >> On Aug 8, 2016 8:49 PM, "Jonathan Jones" wrote: >> > >> > To the things you mentioned. Until this, I'd never heard of either. >> >> That's bad news. The 'Interactive Story' script is out there for a few years, and I think it's mentioned in many enough places. The Story of Norman is a mail thread (=C2=ABlo lisri pe la .norman. zi'e pe lo si'o nunj= ikca ru'e lisri=C2=BB) spanning over six weeks and twenty posts. How come didn't= you notice? le'o >> >> =E2=80=94 mi'e mi ra'u mu'o >> >> > >> > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Bruno Panasiewicz wrote: >> >> >> >> To? >> >> >> >> On 8 August 2016 at 10:04, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Links? >> >>> >> >>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Bruno Panasiewicz < ciuak.prog@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi there. >> >>>> >> >>>> I'm recently worried too much about that not much is currently happening. I imagine a perfect Lojbanic community as a place where people do lots of translations and projects and such. What I see is the opposite: a place where everyone is stingy about helping, talking, writing, and complains about it. >> >>>> Up to this point, this email really IS a complaint; now I want to propose something that would solve the problem. I think there should be a place for people to volunteer to other projects. Everyone that needs help or wants to start a community project would be welcome. >> >>>> I'm utterly amazed about the Crash Course: it's a one man project, and I think it's worth recognition and work from others. Most projects could be completed within a few days or weeks if every Lojbanist wrote one line of Lojban/English every day. >> >>>> I'd like to work on some way to make the community more active, and not just a random arrangement of people with their own lives. >> >>>> >> >>>> One last question: why does nobody develop the Interactive Story? Please add something to it. >> >>>> >> >>>> =E2=80=94 mi'e la uakci mu'o >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. >> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >>> >> >>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> >>> (Come to the Dot Side! 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Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Aug 9, 2016 9:04 AM, "Jonathan Jones" <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I haven't really been paying attention to anything Lojban in a few= years. The in-fighting got on my nerves too much, and that lack of anyone = local to talk to made me lose pretty much all interest.

Well then, I hope that your interest will rise up again!

=E2=80=94 mi'e uy

>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Bruno Panasiewicz <ciuak.prog@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 8, 2016 8:49 PM, "Jonathan Jones" <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > To the things you mentioned. Until this, I'd never heard = of either.
>>
>> That's bad news. The 'Interactive Story' script is out= there for a few years, and I think it's mentioned in many enough place= s. The Story of Norman is a mail thread (=C2=ABlo lisri pe la .norman. zi&#= 39;e pe lo si'o nunjikca ru'e lisri=C2=BB) spanning over six weeks = and twenty posts. How come didn't you notice? le'o
>>
>> =E2=80=94 mi'e mi ra'u mu'o
>>
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Bruno Panasiewicz <ciuak.prog@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> To?
>> >>
>> >> On 8 August 2016 at 10:04, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Links?
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Bruno Panasiewicz <= ;ciuak.prog@gmail.com> wrote= :
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi there.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm recently worried too much about that not = much is currently happening. I imagine a perfect Lojbanic community as a pl= ace where people do lots of translations and projects and such. What I see = is the opposite: a place where everyone is stingy about helping, talking, w= riting, and complains about it.
>> >>>> Up to this point, this email really IS a complain= t; now I want to propose something that would solve the problem. I think th= ere should be a place for people to volunteer to other projects. Everyone t= hat needs help or wants to start a community project would be welcome.
>> >>>> I'm utterly amazed about the Crash Course: it= 's a one man project, and I think it's worth recognition and work f= rom others. Most projects could be completed within a few days or weeks if = every Lojbanist wrote one line of Lojban/English every day.
>> >>>> I'd like to work on some way to make the comm= unity more active, and not just a random arrangement of people with their o= wn lives.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> One last question: why does nobody develop the In= teractive Story? Please add something to it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> =E2=80=94 mi'e la uakci mu'o
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscri= bed to the Google Groups "lojban" group.
>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving= emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
>> >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
>> >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban.
>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>> >>>
>> >>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.lu= k. mi patfu do zo'o
>> >>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed = to the Google Groups "lojban" group.
>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving ema= ils from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
>> >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
>> >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban.
>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to t= he Google Groups "lojban" group.
>> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails = from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
>> >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
>> >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban.
>> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>> >
>> > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi pa= tfu do zo'o
>> > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>> >
>> > --
>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the G= oogle Groups "lojban" group.
>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from= it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
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>> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban.
>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
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>
>
>
>
> --
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo= 'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>
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