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[2a00:1450:400c:c09::235]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p199si227639wmd.1.2016.08.09.10.14.09 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Aug 2016 10:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::235 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c09::235; Received: by mail-wm0-x235.google.com with SMTP id o80so49175326wme.1 for ; Tue, 09 Aug 2016 10:14:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.25.133.212 with SMTP id h203mr31074249lfd.28.1470762848372; Tue, 09 Aug 2016 10:14:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.3.203 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 10:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.3.203 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 10:14:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2025414.Zn5o0fX2xa@caracal> References: <2025414.Zn5o0fX2xa@caracal> From: Bruno Panasiewicz Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 19:14:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] djekarni (Diary): le karni fe la timoteios. To: mriste Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11466de0204d9b0539a6a97f X-Original-Sender: ciuak.prog@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::235 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ciuak.prog@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11466de0204d9b0539a6a97f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Aug 9, 2016 6:34 PM, "Pierre Abbat" wrote: > > On Monday, August 08, 2016 09:37:39 Timothy Lawrence wrote: > > pe'u ko dragau mi ki'u la lojban.na verclibau mi > > > > Corrigez-moi, s'il vous pla=C3=AEt, parce que le fran=C3=A7ias n'est pa= s ma langue > > maternelle. > > fran=C3=A7ais > > > Please correct any of my language versions or suggest improvements - English > > is my native language so I hope I got that one right ;) > > > > > > > > fi'i ko spuda > > > > Vous =C3=AAtes invit=C3=A9s =C3=A0 r=C3=A9pondre. > > > > You are welcome to respond. > > > > > > > > coi le karni. > > > > i mi'e la timoteios.i mi xabju le sralygu'e. > > > > i ca'o le cabdei mi pu ctigau la plipe.i la plipe.cu dalpe'o mi. > > i la plipe.cu citka le srasu ni'i la plipe.cu pipyjalra. > > Besides inserting "lo nu" as Bruno suggested, another way to fix the grammar is > to connect the two bridi with "ini'ibo". I agree. (Please don't use my first name, =C2=ABla uakci=C2=BB is all I wan= t.) > > > i mi ze'u ciska dei.i mi ba za'u re'u ciska. > > > > mu'o > > > > > > > > Cher journal, > > > > Je m'appelle Timotheos. J'habite en Australie. > > > > Aujourd'hui, j'ai nourri Plipe. Plipe est mon animal de compagnie. > > Elle mange de l'herbe parce qu'elle est un criquet. > > Moi, je dirais =C2=ABgrillon=C2=BB, mais =C2=ABcriquet=C2=BB est un mot. > > > Cela a pris beaucoup de temps =C3=A0 =C3=A9crire. Je vais =C3=A9crire e= ncore. > > > > > > > > Dear diary, > > > > I am Timotheos. I live in Australia. > > > > Today I fed Plipe. Plipe is my pet. > > > > She eats grass because she is a grasshopper. > > It took me a very long time to write this. I will write again. > > "But you eat all these reptile birds that walk on four and have knees higher > than their legs to jump." > > grasshopper=3Dsauterelle=3Dpipyjalra, cricket=3Dgrillon=3Dsagjalra; but I= don't like > "jalra" used to refer to Orthoptera because they're not closely related. The > cockroaches and termites are now placed in the same order, so I have no > problem with "mudyctijalra" (which could also refer to the wood-eating > cockroach that isn't a termite), but the Orthoptera are outside the > Dictyoptera. And what do we call katydids (which are not in the family > Katydidae)? What sort of orthopteran does "xargolu" mean? I don't know, but the odd, hierarchy based gismu don't seem to be any good. =C2=ABjukni=C2=BB warns me that I better use some other word to mean 'spide= r'. =E2=80=94 mi'e djica be lo ka ralju selcme ro jbopre no drata be zo uakci > > Pierre > -- > loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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On Aug 9, 2016 6:34 PM, "Pierre Abbat" <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
>
> On Monday, August 08, 2016 09:37:39 Timothy Lawrence wrote:
> > pe'u ko dragau mi ki'u la lo= jban.na verclibau mi
> >
> > Corrigez-moi, s'il vous pla=C3=AEt, parce que le fran=C3=A7ia= s n'est pas ma langue
> > maternelle.
>
> fran=C3=A7ais
>
> > Please correct any of my language versions or suggest improvement= s - English
> > is my native language so I hope I got that one right ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > fi'i ko spuda
> >
> > Vous =C3=AAtes invit=C3=A9s =C3=A0 r=C3=A9pondre.
> >
> > You are welcome to respond.
> >
> >
> >
> > coi le karni.
> >
> > i mi'e la timoteios.i mi xabju le sralygu'e.
> >
> > i ca'o le cabdei mi pu ctigau la plipe.i la plipe.cu dalpe'o mi.
> > i la plipe.cu citka le srasu ni&#= 39;i la plipe.cu pipyjalra.
>
> Besides inserting "lo nu" as Bruno suggested, another way to= fix the grammar is
> to connect the two bridi with "ini'ibo".

I agree. (Please don't use my first name, =C2=ABla uakci= =C2=BB is all I want.)

>
> > i mi ze'u ciska dei.i mi ba za'u re'u ciska.
> >
> > mu'o
> >
> >
> >
> > Cher journal,
> >
> > Je m'appelle Timotheos. J'habite en Australie.
> >
> > Aujourd'hui, j'ai nourri Plipe. Plipe est mon animal de c= ompagnie.
> > Elle mange de l'herbe parce qu'elle est un criquet.
>
> Moi, je dirais =C2=ABgrillon=C2=BB, mais =C2=ABcriquet=C2=BB est un mo= t.
>
> > Cela a pris beaucoup de temps =C3=A0 =C3=A9crire. Je vais =C3=A9c= rire encore.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear diary,
> >
> > I am Timotheos. I live in Australia.
> >
> > Today I fed Plipe. Plipe is my pet.
> >
> > She eats grass because she is a grasshopper.
> > It took me a very long time to write this. I will write again. >
> "But you eat all these reptile birds that walk on four and have k= nees higher
> than their legs to jump."
>
> grasshopper=3Dsauterelle=3Dpipyjalra, cricket=3Dgrillon=3Dsagjalra; bu= t I don't like
> "jalra" used to refer to Orthoptera because they're not = closely related. The
> cockroaches and termites are now placed in the same order, so I have n= o
> problem with "mudyctijalra" (which could also refer to the w= ood-eating
> cockroach that isn't a termite), but the Orthoptera are outside th= e
> Dictyoptera. And what do we call katydids (which are not in the family=
> Katydidae)? What sort of orthopteran does "xargolu" mean?

I don't know, but the odd, hierarchy based gismu don'= ;t seem to be any good. =C2=ABjukni=C2=BB warns me that I better use some o= ther word to mean 'spider'.

=E2=80=94 mi'e djica be lo ka ralju selcme ro jbopre no = drata be zo uakci

>
> Pierre
> --
> loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji
>
> --
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