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[68.230.241.216]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id bx7si1285228pad.2.2016.08.12.12.28.13 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 12:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.216 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) client-ip=68.230.241.216; Received: from eastrmimpo306.cox.net ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.28 201-2260-151-171-20160122) with ESMTP id <20160812192812.SJWS873.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo306.cox.net> for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:28:12 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([72.209.244.98]) by eastrmimpo306.cox.net with cox id WKUB1t00R2869s801KUBz3; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:28:12 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020206.57AE234C.00CF,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=VJNTnr/X c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JFEMeGVUNR3hGa77igez4Q==:117 a=JFEMeGVUNR3hGa77igez4Q==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xwUx82YqCvGAJk0qud4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Subject: Re: [lojban] taking action To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: From: "Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG" Organization: The Logical Language Group, Inc. Message-ID: <131093c4-e717-4fd4-6e8b-ae12ce85a5b0@lojban.org> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:28:59 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.216 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mailfrom=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.6 X-Spam_score_int: -5 X-Spam_bar: / On 8/7/2016 5:00 PM, Bruno Panasiewicz wrote: > Hi there. > > I'm recently worried too much about that not much is currently > happening. I imagine a perfect Lojbanic community as a place where > people do lots of translations and projects and such. What I see is the > opposite: a place where everyone is stingy about helping, talking, > writing, and complains about it. > Up to this point, this email really IS a complaint; now I want to > propose something that would solve the problem. I think there should be > a place for people to volunteer to other projects. Everyone that needs > help or wants to start a community project would be welcome. > I'm utterly amazed about the Crash Course: it's a one man project, and I > think it's worth recognition and work from others. Most projects could > be completed within a few days or weeks if every Lojbanist wrote one > line of Lojban/English every day. > I'd like to work on some way to make the community more active, and not > just a random arrangement of people with their own lives. > > One last question: why does nobody develop the Interactive Story? Please > add something to it. Probably because nobody has even heard of it. This needs to change. ---------------------------------- LLG, the Lojban community organization, is attempting to get itself reactivated. Alas, for several years it was dependent on one person, Robin Powell, who ran the website but also ran byfy and was doing the revision for CLL (the red book). Volunteerism dried up, and we didn't have anyone to act on suggestions like the above. I myself have been in declining health and had much less time for Lojban in recent years. We now have a new Board and officers. I am delegating community outreach to two of them (Curtis Franks and Karen Stein). I am hoping that they will post to this and other threads shortly (as well as to IRC). Please make your complaints about lack of organization to them, as well as your suggestions for new initiatives that the community can undertake. They will have some capacity to act on their own, and will be reporting to the LLG Board of Directors, so that ideas start turning into action. At the very least we should be able to coordinate setting aside a prominent place on the website where new ideas can be posted, and maybe get some people to assume leadership in motivating others to become active and to stay involved. There also has been discussion of a small quasi-competitive prize fund that would be a reward for the most significant contributions to the community. There would be periodic fixed-amount prizes in several categories, funded from the LLG budget (as well as any donations specifically for that purpose). The details have to be discussed, and I will urge the two outreachers to lead discussion on that topic. I urge people to offer their ideas, and more importantly their commitment to act in support of ideas that are implemented. 99% of the ideas proposed in the last several years have died simply because the person attempting to lead the effort got zero volunteer response to help in implementing them. lojbab Bob LeChevalier President, LLG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.