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[68.230.241.217]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id bx7si1311522pad.2.2016.08.12.13.26.53 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 13:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.217 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) client-ip=68.230.241.217; Received: from eastrmimpo210.cox.net ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.28 201-2260-151-171-20160122) with ESMTP id <20160812202653.TNQQ3211.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo210.cox.net> for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:26:53 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([72.209.244.98]) by eastrmimpo210.cox.net with cox id WLSs1t00P2869s801LSsHk; Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:26:53 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.57AE310D.002E,ss=1,re=0.000,recu=0.000,reip=0.000,cl=1,cld=1,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=BvoTwOn5 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JFEMeGVUNR3hGa77igez4Q==:117 a=JFEMeGVUNR3hGa77igez4Q==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=3S_fedaOssX8iisFkGoA:9 a=RQrkCz-_3EUzV1eb:21 a=w4UsOv2v1DF1h9uM:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Subject: Re: [lojban] taking action To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <131093c4-e717-4fd4-6e8b-ae12ce85a5b0@lojban.org> From: Bob LeChevalier Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:27:40 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.217 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mailfrom=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On 8/12/2016 4:02 PM, Bruno Panasiewicz wrote: >> Probably because nobody has even heard of it. This needs to change. > > Agreed; though it's hard not to look into a two-month thread. There are a lot of people who don't try to keep up with Lojban List anymore, including me. (Much of the discussion is in Lojban, and I haven't the time or fluency to even try. And of the stuff that is in English, it is pretty difficult to keep track of what are ideas and what stuff is actually being worked on. >> LLG, the Lojban community organization, is attempting to get itself > reactivated. Alas, for several years it was dependent on one person, > Robin Powell, who ran the website but also ran byfy and was doing the > revision for CLL (the red book). > > Why is he no longer in? He has chosen to "drop out" at least for a while, so that he can work on other interests. (Beyond that, you will have to ask him directly.) >> There also has been discussion of a small quasi-competitive prize fund > that would be a reward for the most significant contributions to the > community. There would be periodic fixed-amount prizes in several > categories, funded from the LLG budget (as well as any donations > specifically for that purpose). The details have to be discussed, and > I will urge the two outreachers to lead discussion on that topic. > > Hmm, the success of such funding depends on how it's organized. As I > mentioned earlier, it can make volunteers decline in number, in the > worst scenario. We've been thinking in terms of annual awards, chosen kinda like Nobel Prizes. So far as I know, such prizes are tangential to people actually deciding to get involved in such activities. LLG can also use its budget to pay for actual expenses of projects, but that would not be payment for services (we don't have anywhere near the money to pay even one person at a salary level). > Yeah, it's a big problem. The concepts I mailed about and proposed over > a span of only a few months can't be counted on one's hands. On the > other hand, the number of those that were implemented can, even on one hand. And to be honest, I don't know a single one of those, and in fact cannot recall reading any postings of yours before today. But let's see if that can change. Not so much me keeping up (because I can't anymore), but LLG in the form of my two outreach people. Please encourage them when they post. We're rather new at this type of thing, and need to find out what will work. lojbab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.