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How do you think that we can best organize and advertise ongoing projects? = What implementation are you envisioning? ___ As a particular note, I would add that if a reward system dried up, then in= terest in helping a project can basically only dry up to the point at where= we currently are. In a sense, we are at our lowest, which has the advantag= e that the inly direction from here is up (or, at least, not down). We have= a great opportunity to innovate and we should not fear worst-case scenario= s because we are almost there already in many ways. Moreover, for this spec= ific concern, developing investment in the outcome of a project by initiall= y rewarding participation monetarily may actually motivate a sustained inte= rest in its progress regardless of the continuation of that monetary reward= . But I do see the advantages in making small "thank you"-note-like gifts a= nd larger-scale, less guaranteed, competitive reward systems (like a Nobel = Prize). --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_472_1760480290.1471330747536--