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After= =20 the move Tiki started being served at a new address. What happened here is that Google understood that the redirect had happened= =20 to the new wiki but nevertheless indexed the old wiki at the new address=20 too. Why tiki in some cases still higher in search results than the new wiki is= =20 a complete mystery to me. anyway removing it from index won't mean it will= =20 be replaced by addresses of the new wiki. falling down of search positions= =20 of *.lojban.org in general is one possible outcome. Em quinta-feira, 18 de agosto de 2016 13:38:56 UTC+3, la uakci escreveu: > > On Aug 18, 2016 12:36 PM, "Johannes L=C3=B6thberg" > wrote: > > > > On Aug 18, 2016 12:32, "uakci" > wrote= : > > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > As Gleki pointed out at some point, the old wiki still observes some= =20 > traffic, and most of that is from search results. > > > > > > I propose that, in order to redirect that traffic to the new wiki, th= e=20 > old sites will have a noindex tag, making them disappear from the search= =20 > results. > > > > > > > Might want to get a list of the most popular ones and set up a 301=20 > redirect to the proper article on the new wiki so that useful articles ar= e=20 > still easy to find. > > Hmm, didn't all of the old pages make it to the new wiki? If not, we coul= d=20 > set up redirects on the pages that were moved, but leave the others. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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just a note. the old addresses of tiki do redirect to the = new wiki. After the move Tiki started being served at a new address.
Wh= at happened here is that Google understood that the redirect had happened t= o the new wiki but nevertheless indexed the old wiki at the new address too= .

Why tiki in some cases still higher in search re= sults than the new wiki is a complete mystery to me. anyway removing it fro= m index won't mean it will be replaced by addresses of the new wiki. fa= lling down of search positions of *.lojban.org in general is one possible o= utcome.

Em quinta-feira, 18 de agosto de 2016 13:38:56 UTC+3, la uak= ci escreveu:

On Aug 18, 2016 12:36 PM, "Johannes L=C3=B6thberg"= <= demi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Aug 18, 2016 12:32, "uakci" <ciuak...@gmail.com> wro= te:
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > As Gleki pointed out at some point, the old wiki still observes s= ome traffic, and most of that is from search results.
> >
> > I propose that, in order to redirect that traffic to the new wiki= , the old sites will have a noindex tag, making them disappear from the sea= rch results.
> >
>
> Might want to get a list of the most popular ones and set up a 301 red= irect to the proper article on the new wiki so that useful articles are sti= ll easy to find.

Hmm, didn't all of the old pages make it to the new wiki= ? If not, we could set up redirects on the pages that were moved, but leave= the others.

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