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[2a00:1450:4010:c07::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b77si111884wmb.1.2016.08.19.04.08.29 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Aug 2016 04:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c07::22d; Received: by mail-lf0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id l89so30358996lfi.1 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 04:08:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.25.22.152 with SMTP id 24mr2043053lfw.180.1471604908745; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 04:08:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.3.203 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 04:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.3.203 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 04:08:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5b1e2b9d-6f69-48b3-b1e2-8350e0e623ed@googlegroups.com> References: <5b1e2b9d-6f69-48b3-b1e2-8350e0e623ed@googlegroups.com> From: uakci Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:08:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Old Wiki To: mriste Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11408306d5eb42053a6ab714 X-Original-Sender: ciuak.prog@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ciuak.prog@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11408306d5eb42053a6ab714 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Let's try that anyway; if any undesirable side effects come, we can revert it. On Aug 19, 2016 12:58 PM, wrote: > just a note. the old addresses of tiki do redirect to the new wiki. After > the move Tiki started being served at a new address. > What happened here is that Google understood that the redirect had > happened to the new wiki but nevertheless indexed the old wiki at the new > address too. > > Why tiki in some cases still higher in search results than the new wiki i= s > a complete mystery to me. anyway removing it from index won't mean it wil= l > be replaced by addresses of the new wiki. falling down of search position= s > of *.lojban.org in general is one possible outcome. > > Em quinta-feira, 18 de agosto de 2016 13:38:56 UTC+3, la uakci escreveu: >> >> On Aug 18, 2016 12:36 PM, "Johannes L=C3=B6thberg" w= rote: >> > >> > On Aug 18, 2016 12:32, "uakci" wrote: >> > > >> > > Hi. >> > > >> > > As Gleki pointed out at some point, the old wiki still observes some >> traffic, and most of that is from search results. >> > > >> > > I propose that, in order to redirect that traffic to the new wiki, >> the old sites will have a noindex tag, making them disappear from the >> search results. >> > > >> > >> > Might want to get a list of the most popular ones and set up a 301 >> redirect to the proper article on the new wiki so that useful articles a= re >> still easy to find. >> >> Hmm, didn't all of the old pages make it to the new wiki? If not, we >> could set up redirects on the pages that were moved, but leave the other= s. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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Let's try that anyway; if any undesirable side effects c= ome, we can revert it.


On Aug 19, 2016 1= 2:58 PM, <gleki.is.my.nam= e@gmail.com> wrote:
just a note. the old addresses of tiki do redirect = to the new wiki. After the move Tiki started being served at a new address.=
What happened here is that Google understood that the redirect had hap= pened to the new wiki but nevertheless indexed the old wiki at the new addr= ess too.

Why tiki in some cases still higher in se= arch results than the new wiki is a complete mystery to me. anyway removing= it from index won't mean it will be replaced by addresses of the new w= iki. falling down of search positions of *.lojban.org in general is one possible outcome.

E= m quinta-feira, 18 de agosto de 2016 13:38:56 UTC+3, la uakci escreveu:

On Aug 18, 2016 12:36 PM, "Johannes L=C3=B6thberg"= <demi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Aug 18, 2016 12:32, "uakci" <ciuak= ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > As Gleki pointed out at some point, the old wiki still observes s= ome traffic, and most of that is from search results.
> >
> > I propose that, in order to redirect that traffic to the new wiki= , the old sites will have a noindex tag, making them disappear from the sea= rch results.
> >
>
> Might want to get a list of the most popular ones and set up a 301 red= irect to the proper article on the new wiki so that useful articles are sti= ll easy to find.

Hmm, didn't all of the old pages make it to the new wiki= ? If not, we could set up redirects on the pages that were moved, but leave= the others.

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