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[2a00:1450:4010:c07::230]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r197si223414wmf.2.2016.08.19.13.35.02 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::230 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c07::230; Received: by mail-lf0-x230.google.com with SMTP id b199so40707548lfe.0 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:35:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.25.211.15 with SMTP id k15mr2162549lfg.178.1471638902282; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:35:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.3.203 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.3.203 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:35:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <16e69ec8-f117-485e-a61a-e170564ea22f@googlegroups.com> References: <196b08dd-177e-4238-bca4-9b914336e20c@googlegroups.com> <88cbdecd-1ffc-4a45-accd-012cd230570d@googlegroups.com> <7e31f2fb-db00-471c-b479-711362651244@googlegroups.com> <16e69ec8-f117-485e-a61a-e170564ea22f@googlegroups.com> From: uakci Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 22:35:01 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Opinion Poll: Results To: mriste Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11408614022189053a72a235 X-Original-Sender: ciuak.prog@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::230 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ciuak.prog@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11408614022189053a72a235 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable By the way, the one thing I want to achieve with this poll is to speed up change in BPFK Lojban which, at this point, in more frozen than during the freeze. If the results will be treated with an 'Oh, OK,' and not with some actual, motivated change, I don't want to organize them in the first place. So, if a new poll like this is up, and it reaches the dark corners of the jboce'u, I'd like someone with enough decisive power to treat the results seriously and adapt to the results (not the other way). If I establish that, I can start asking around as said before, and act. =E2=80=94 mi'e le'okte mu'o re'i =E2=80=94 On Aug 19, 2016 2:42 PM, "karis" wrote: > I'm sorry I didn't get back to check on this sooner. I got caught up in > getting ready for my family's vacation preparations. > > My thought is to start with the one or two chats you think are most activ= e > and include a question asking what online chats and lists people use to > discuss and use lojban, then send the questionnaire there. 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By the way, the one thing I want to achieve with this poll i= s to speed up change in BPFK Lojban which, at this point, in more frozen th= an during the freeze. If the results will be treated with an 'Oh, OK,&#= 39; and not with some actual, motivated change, I don't want to organiz= e them in the first place.

So, if a new poll like this is up, and it reaches the dark c= orners of the jboce'u, I'd like someone with enough decisive power = to treat the results seriously and adapt to the results (not the other way)= .

If I establish that, I can start asking around as said befor= e, and act.

=E2=80=94 mi'e le'okte mu'o re'i =E2=80=94


On Aug 19, 2016 2= :42 PM, "karis" <comc= aresvcs@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sorry I didn't get back to check on this sooner. = I got caught up in getting ready for my family's vacation preparations.=

My thought is to start with the one or two chats you think are most active = and include a question asking what online chats and lists people use to dis= cuss and use lojban, then send the questionnaire there. That way the disper= sion is greater.

I'll mostly be out of contract until after the 30th, but I'll check= back here then.

karis

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