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[2a00:1450:4010:c07::230]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i198si507319wmd.2.2016.08.24.00.30.28 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Aug 2016 00:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::230 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c07::230; Received: by mail-lf0-x230.google.com with SMTP id b199so5587171lfe.0 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 00:30:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.46.0.220 with SMTP id e89mr436174lji.58.1472023827601; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 00:30:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.3.203 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 00:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.3.203 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 00:30:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5354cff3-8b06-45c1-a48f-93ada152e9b8@googlegroups.com> References: <5354cff3-8b06-45c1-a48f-93ada152e9b8@googlegroups.com> From: uakci Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 09:30:26 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] -bom-/-nom- & KE To: mriste Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1142b342585ff0053acc41c4 X-Original-Sender: ciuak.prog@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ciuak.prog@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c07::230 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ciuak.prog@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1142b342585ff0053acc41c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Aug 24, 2016 8:40 AM, "Curtis Franks" wrote: > > > it should be a rafsi of a cmavo of KE! > > But NU and KEI behave the same way as rafsi. Now, they could work as KE/KEhE, but it does not seem necessary to me. > > > Here's the question: would it be useful to have a KE that works like -bom-/-nom- - turns the enclosed selbrisle into a selbrisle, the meaning of which is the thing named by those selbrisle? > > I would imagine so. It would not hurt, anyway. It also seems natural, especially if these rafsi were to exist. It kind of weirds me out to have rafsi which exist in no other form (meaning that no truly complete veljvo may be formed). I would just ask that the cmavo selrafsi be fo la .lojban. are similar to these rafsi (meaning that they begin with a "b" or "n" respectively, and that they contain an "o" in them; I would also like them to look somewhat mutually similar). But, syntactically, -bom- and -nom- work as KE and KEhE respectively, and it wouldn't make sense making *another* KEhE. > > ___ > > > whatever the kurtV gismu is > > What /is/ it? I have always said "kurti" in my head, but I am dying to know what others use. ;) Well, I guess that's the most probable one... or is it? Maybe it's an -o-ending culture gismu: kurto: x1 reflects Kurtis' language/culture in aspect x2. ~ mi'e stidi be lo to'e lakne mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a1142b342585ff0053acc41c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Aug 24, 2016 8:40 AM, "Curtis Franks" <curtis.w.franks@gmail.com> w= rote:
>
> > it should be a rafsi of a cmavo of KE!
>
> But NU and KEI behave the same way as rafsi. Now, they could work as K= E/KEhE, but it does not seem necessary to me.
>
> > Here's the question: would it be useful to have a KE that wor= ks like -bom-/-nom- - turns the enclosed selbrisle into a selbrisle, the me= aning of which is the thing named by those selbrisle?
>
> I would imagine so. It would not hurt, anyway.=C2=A0 It also seems nat= ural, especially if these rafsi were to exist. It kind of weirds me out to = have rafsi which exist in no other form (meaning that no truly complete vel= jvo may be formed). I would just ask that the cmavo selrafsi be fo la .lojb= an. are similar to these rafsi (meaning that they begin with a "b"= ; or "n" respectively, and that they contain an "o" in = them; I would also like them to look somewhat mutually similar).

But, syntactically, -bom- and -nom- work as KE and KEhE resp= ectively, and it wouldn't make sense making *another* KEhE.
>
> ___
>
> > whatever the kurtV gismu is
>
> What /is/ it? I have always said "kurti" in my head, but I a= m dying to know what others use. ;)

Well, I guess that's the most probable one... or is it? = Maybe it's an -o-ending culture gismu:

kurto: x1 reflects Kurtis' language/culture in aspect x2= .

~ mi'e stidi be lo to'e lakne mu'o

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