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contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --_000_CO2PR01MB20879CCC91CFA03F56D71B6DEBEA0CO2PR01MB2087prod_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > advertising I am not sure if it's a problem with advertising or a problem with retention. I fear there may be many initially-eager learners who drop out. I think smoothing the learning curve will keep more people interested for longer, then more likely to help in projects. This is why I would love to help organise and simplify the main website as one step towards this. > volunteer organizing side We have some great volunteers who probably don't realise they are volunteers. I have been kindly helped by uncountable individuals already. I think a more formalised/explicit/organised mentoring process might help bring the community closer together. It might help retain more learners and form more invested friendships. ________________________________ From: lojban@googlegroups.com on behalf of Curtis Franks Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2016 4:13 PM To: lojban Subject: [lojban] taking action la .karis. > As far as the question of organizing and advertising projects, have you come up with any ideas? I have one or two, but I'm sure there are many more viable ways to do this. I have some vague ideas (mostly about organizing), but I would love to hear more concrete offerings (as have been presented in this thread so far) first. I find the advertising and volunteer organizing side to be much more difficult. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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> advertising

I am not sure if it's a problem with advertising or a problem with retentio= n. I fear there may be many initially-eager learners who drop out.


I think smoothing the l= earning curve will keep more people interested for longer, then more likely= to help in projects. This is why I would love to help organise and simplif= y the main website as one step towards this.



> volunteer organizi= ng side

We have some great volunteers who probably don't realise they are volunteer= s. I have been kindly helped by uncountable individuals already.


I think a more formalis= ed/explicit/organised mentoring process might help bring the community clos= er together. It might help retain more learners and form more= invested friendships.



From: lojban@googlegroups= .com <lojban@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Curtis Franks <curtis.= w.franks@gmail.com>
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la .karis.
> As far as the question of organizing and advertising projects, have yo= u come up with any ideas? I have one or two, but I'm sure there are many mo= re viable ways to do this.

I have some vague ideas (mostly about organizing), but I would love to hear= more concrete offerings (as have been presented in this thread so far) fir= st.  I find the advertising and volunteer organizing side to be much m= ore difficult.

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