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Subject: Re: [lojban] -bom-/-nom- & KE
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> > > it should be a rafsi of a cmavo of KE!
> >
> > But NU and KEI behave the same way as rafsi. Now, they could work as KE=
/KEhE, but it does not seem necessary to me.
> >
> > > Here's the question: would it be useful to have a KE that works like =
-bom-/-nom- - turns the enclosed selbrisle into a selbrisle, the meaning of=
 which is the thing named by those selbrisle?
> >
> > I would imagine so. It would not hurt, anyway.  It also seems natural, =
especially if these rafsi were to exist. It kind of weirds me out to have r=
afsi which exist in no other form (meaning that no truly complete veljvo ma=
y be formed). I would just ask that the cmavo selrafsi be fo la .lojban. ar=
e similar to these rafsi (meaning that they begin with a "b" or "n" respect=
ively, and that they contain an "o" in them; I would also like them to look=
 somewhat mutually similar).

> But, syntactically, -bom- and -nom- work as KE and KEhE respectively, and=
 it wouldn't make sense making *another* KEhE.

How are you figuring that out?  From lujvo alone?  If so, it is still not c=
lear to me that what you say is actually the case. Abstractions can kind of=
 work the same way when being compressed from veljvo into the rafsi in a lu=
jvo. Could you just elaborate on your reasoning? You might be right; I just=
 do not know.

But, really, selma'o assignment is a secondary concern. These words seem to=
 deserve selrafsi.

___

> > > whatever the kurtV gismu is
> >
> > What /is/ it? I have always said "kurti" in my head, but I am dying to =
know what others use. ;)
> Well, I guess that's the most probable one... or is it? Maybe it's an -o-=
ending culture gismu:
>=20
> kurto: x1 reflects Kurtis' language/culture in aspect x2.

I could get on board with that.

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