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Subject: Re: [lojban] elidable terminators and ambiguity
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The {cu} is not elidable, it is optional, but leaving it in tends to make a 
lot of other things elidable.

The reason that {ku} should be elidable (based on the rule) is that there 
is unambiguously only one place that the required {ku} could occupy.
The phrase {mlatu sisku} can not be a tanru because {noi},{kuho} must 
enclose a bridi, and {le mlatu sisku ku keha vau} is not a bridi.
That clause no verb. 

On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 4:02:51 PM UTC-7, Andrew wrote:
>
> The reason you can't leave out {ku} in {le mlatu ku sisku} is because it 
> is already omitting {cu}. The longest form of this phrase would be {le 
> mlatu ku cu sisku}. Most people pretty much always omit either {ku} or 
> {cu}, but you need at least one between the x1 and the selbri.
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">The {cu} is not elidable, it is optional, but leaving it i=
n tends to make a lot of other things elidable.<br><br>The reason that {ku}=
 should be elidable (based on the rule) is that there is unambiguously only=
 one place that the required {ku} could occupy.<br>The phrase {mlatu sisku}=
 can not be a tanru because {noi},{kuho} must enclose a bridi, and {le mlat=
u sisku ku keha vau} is not a bridi.<br>That clause no verb. <br><br>On Fri=
day, August 26, 2016 at 4:02:51 PM UTC-7, Andrew wrote:<blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr">The reason you can&#39;t leave ou=
t {ku} in {le mlatu ku sisku} is because it is already omitting {cu}. The l=
ongest form of this phrase would be {le mlatu ku cu sisku}. Most people pre=
tty much always omit either {ku} or {cu}, but you need at least one between=
 the x1 and the selbri.<br><br></div></blockquote></div>

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