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It might help retain more learners= =20 > and form more invested friendships. That's a great idea! As a new learner, it'd be great to have someone to=20 help introduce and integrate me into the community. Maybe another approach= =20 would be to pair new learners together. I'm not sure which would work=20 better! In addition, I would absolutely love having a voice chat room available=20 (like TeamSpeak or Mumble) which wasn't solely in Lojban. I wanted to=20 participate in the Sunday chats, but I got the feeling that they'd mostly= =20 just be in Lojban with experienced speakers. Having an open voice chat room= =20 is a low-investment way to practice speaking Lojban for the new dweebs like= =20 me. It's more personal than IRC and might be good for building up the=20 community. It's pretty low-investment either way. On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 5:00:43 PM UTC-4, la uakci wrote: > > Hi there. > > I'm recently worried too much about that not much is currently happening.= =20 > I imagine a perfect Lojbanic community as a place where people do lots of= =20 > translations and projects and such. What I see is the opposite: a place= =20 > where everyone is stingy about helping, talking, writing, and complains= =20 > about it. > Up to this point, this email really IS a complaint; now I want to propose= =20 > something that would solve the problem. I think there should be a place f= or=20 > people to volunteer to other projects. Everyone that needs help or wants = to=20 > start a community project would be welcome. > I'm utterly amazed about the Crash Course: it's a one man project, and I= =20 > think it's worth recognition and work from others. Most projects could be= =20 > completed within a few days or weeks if every Lojbanist wrote one line of= =20 > Lojban/English every day. > I'd like to work on some way to make the community more active, and not= =20 > just a random arrangement of people with their own lives. > > One last question: why does nobody develop the Interactive Story? Please= =20 > add something to it. > > =E2=80=94 mi'e la uakci mu'o > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_891_1100767152.1472771959242 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I = think a more formalised/explicit/organised mentoring process might help bri= ng the community closer together.=C2=A0It might help retain more learners and form more invested fri= endships.

That's a great idea! A= s a new learner, it'd be great to have someone to help introduce and in= tegrate me into the community. Maybe another approach would be to pair new = learners together. I'm not sure which would work better!

=
In addition, I would absolutely love having a voice chat room av= ailable (like TeamSpeak or Mumble) which wasn't solely in Lojban. I wan= ted to participate in the Sunday chats, but I got the feeling that they'= ;d mostly just be in Lojban with experienced speakers. Having an open voice= chat room is a low-investment way to practice speaking Lojban for the new = dweebs like me. It's more personal than IRC and might be good for build= ing up the community. It's pretty low-investment either way.

O= n Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 5:00:43 PM UTC-4, la uakci wrote:

Hi there.

I'm recently worried too much about that not much is cur= rently happening. I imagine a perfect Lojbanic community as a place where p= eople do lots of translations and projects and such. What I see is the oppo= site: a place where everyone is stingy about helping, talking, writing, and= complains about it.
Up to this point, this email really IS a complaint; now I want to propose s= omething that would solve the problem. I think there should be a place for = people to volunteer to other projects. Everyone that needs help or wants to= start a community project would be welcome.
I'm utterly amazed about the Crash Course: it's a one man project, = and I think it's worth recognition and work from others. Most projects = could be completed within a few days or weeks if every Lojbanist wrote one = line of Lojban/English every day.
I'd like to work on some way to make the community more active, and not= just a random arrangement of people with their own lives.

One last question: why does nobody develop the Interactive S= tory? Please add something to it.

=E2=80=94 mi'e la uakci mu'o

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