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Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:07:38 +0200
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I'm not really participating much to the Lojban community but I can't see
how the gain of having shorter words can compensate the loss of
compatibility with the current tools and the need of the update the
grammar(s) and generating confusion with the existing texts.

As one who provided some translation to the the lojban corpus in the past,
I would have preferred this not to happen. I hope there are plans to fix
the grammar and the tools, I believe that having a formal grammar for the
language is what makes Lojban stand above the other conlangs, if we start
breaking it I fear we won't last long.

I'm not against changes but weighting the pros and cons of this change I
don't see the benefit.


Just my 2c.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:41 AM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:

> So some folks have already been speaking ce ki tau jau. Other than that I
> can't really say.
>
> On Sep 12, 2016 7:36 PM, "Thomas Porter" <osiris_hades_deathland@
> hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >The words that are now shorter are used much more than those that are now
> longer.
>
> Why wasn't this always the case? Why change it now?
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>I&#39;m not really participating much to th=
e Lojban community but I can&#39;t see how the gain of having shorter words=
 can compensate the loss of compatibility with the current tools and the ne=
ed of the update the grammar(s) and generating confusion with the existing =
texts.<br><br></div>As one who provided some translation to the the lojban =
corpus in the past, I would have preferred this not to happen. I hope there=
 are plans to fix the grammar and the tools, I believe that having a formal=
 grammar for the language is what makes Lojban stand above the other conlan=
gs, if we start breaking it I fear we won&#39;t last long.<br><br></div>I&#=
39;m not against changes but weighting the pros and cons of this change I d=
on&#39;t see the benefit.<br><br><br></div>Just my 2c.<br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:4=
1 AM, Ian Johnson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:blindbravado@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">blindbravado@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr">So some folks have already been=
 speaking ce ki tau jau. Other than that I can&#39;t really say.</p><div cl=
ass=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 12, 2016 7=
:36 PM, &quot;Thomas Porter&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:osiris_hades_deathl=
and@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">osiris_hades_deathland@<wbr>hotmail.com<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">&gt;The words that are now shorter are us=
ed much more than those that are now longer.</span><br>
</p>
</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">Why wasn&#39;t this always the case? Why change =
it now?</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div><div>


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