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[204.29.186.11]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id um12si3293572pab.2.2016.09.13.06.21.04 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 13 Sep 2016 06:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of tsofian@aol.com designates 204.29.186.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=204.29.186.11; Received: from mtaomg-aad02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aad02.mx.aol.com [172.26.127.228]) by omr-m011e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 827F23800084 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:21:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mac01c.mail.aol.com (core-mac01.mail.aol.com [10.74.42.11]) by mtaomg-aad02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B9C7F38000082 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:21:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 146.214.100.134 by webprd-m67.mail.aol.com (10.74.55.15) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:21:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:21:01 -0400 From: "'Terry Sofian' via lojban" To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <15723b53847-303-29d5b@webprd-m67.mail.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <089e010d7dde971f0d053c2a8cd7@google.com> References: <089e010d7dde971f0d053c2a8cd7@google.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Digest for lojban@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 2 topics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_208699_939152273.1473772861487" X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: JAS STD X-Originating-IP: [146.214.100.134] x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7fe457d7fd3d6306 X-Original-Sender: tsofian@aol.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@mx.aol.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of tsofian@aol.com designates 204.29.186.11 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tsofian@aol.com; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=aol.com X-Original-From: Terry Sofian Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_208699_939152273.1473772861487 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can someone help me with counting in base 12 in lojban? What would 1A and s= uch be? =20 Thanks Terry =20 Terry Sofian tsofian@aol.com =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: lojban To: Digest recipients Sent: Sat, Sep 10, 2016 12:25 pm Subject: [lojban] Digest for lojban@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 2 topic= s =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 lojban@googlegroups.com = =20 =20 Google Groups =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Topic digest =20 View all topics =20 =20 =20 taking action - 3 Updates =20 =20 a thing or two about the Crash Course - 1 Update =20 =20 taking action =20 =20 karis : Sep 09 04:31PM -0700 = =20 Bremenli, =20 You said: =20 Sketching what the language specifications and requirements must have been = to come up with the language we got. I'm figuring out whether a better morphophonology could have met the requir= ements. It should be much simpler. =20 Have you asked lojbab? He understands the process and the specifications be= cause hewas part of its creation. =20 karis =20 =20 karis : Sep 09 04:31PM -0700 = =20 Bremenli, =20 You said: =20 Sketching what the language specifications and requirements must have been = to come up with the language we got. I'm figuring out whether a better morphophonology could have met the requir= ements. It should be much simpler. =20 Have you asked lojbab? He understands the process and the specifications be= cause hewas part of its creation. =20 karis =20 =20 John Clifford : Sep 09 08:15PM -050= 0 =20 He's right, of course. It should be much simpler. But Lojban inher= ited a lot from Loglan, including all the mistakes JCB made in the first fe= w days. The result has been a 60year quest to get back what was thrown awa= y and that quest has taken the form of countless incremental adjustments, r= ather than scrapping the whole thing and starting from just before the firs= t mistakes. Lojban did also jettison some things Loglan had right, but thes= e were less significant. pycyn, who was there before the creation. =20 Sent from my iPad =20 =20 =20 =20 Back to top =20 a thing or two about the Crash Course =20 =20 karis : Sep 09 05:02PM -0700 = =20 As a follow-up: =20 Have these two courses (Crash Course and Wave Lessons) been clearly identif= ied as non-official or corrected to it yet? From reading the entirety of th= e conversation I believe this was the solution to neither course being so m= arked or solely teaching official lojban. I'm posting this here so the answ= ers are accessible to all. =20 [I am currently unable to provide earlier posts along with mine. That is wh= y I provided short explanatory comments.] =20 Karis =20 =20 =20 Back to top =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates f= or this group. You can change your settings on the group membership page. 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Can someone help me wit= h counting in base 12 in lojban? What would 1A and such be?
 
Thanks
Terry
 
Terry Sofian
tsofian@aol.com
 
 
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karis <comcaresvcs@gm= ail.com>: Sep 09 04:31PM -0700

Bremenli,
 
You said:
 
Sketching what the language specifications and requirements must have been = to come up with the language we got.
I'm figuring out whether a better morphophonology could have met the requir= ements. It should be much simpler.
 
Have you asked lojbab? He understands the process and the specifications be= cause hewas part of its creation.
 
karis
karis <comcaresvcs@gm= ail.com>: Sep 09 04:31PM -0700

Bremenli,
 
You said:
 
Sketching what the language specifications and requirements must have been = to come up with the language we got.
I'm figuring out whether a better morphophonology could have met the requir= ements. It should be much simpler.
 
Have you asked lojbab? He understands the process and the specifications be= cause hewas part of its creation.
 
karis
John Clifford <kali9pu= tra@yahoo.com>: Sep 09 08:15PM -0500

He's right, of course. It should be much simpler. But Lojban inher= ited a lot from Loglan, including all the mistakes JCB made in the first fe= w days. The result has been a 60year quest to get back what was thrown awa= y and that quest has taken the form of countless incremental adjustments, r= ather than scrapping the whole thing and starting from just before the firs= t mistakes. Lojban did also jettison some things Loglan had right, but thes= e were less significant.
pycyn, who was there before the creation.
 
Sent from my iPad
 
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karis <comcaresvcs@gm= ail.com>: Sep 09 05:02PM -0700

As a follow-up:
 
Have these two courses (Crash Course and Wave Lessons) been clearly identif= ied as non-official or corrected to it yet? From reading the entirety of th= e conversation I believe this was the solution to neither course being so m= arked or solely teaching official lojban. I'm posting this here so the answ= ers are accessible to all.
 
[I am currently unable to provide earlier posts along with mine. That is wh= y I provided short explanatory comments.]
 
Karis
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