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From: Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:40:55 -0400
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oicai  ba'u xajmi  .i mi zo'onai pupu'o gubysku lo se du'u mi ai cliva le
jboce'u ji'e lo cimnytei .i mi na ka'e tavla fo le pe'a magbau

ni'o la uakci zo'u mi zu'edji lo se gunka pe la uakci . i ku'i mi ca tcidu
lo se samymri be de'i li pare pi'e pi'e  pa ku to lo glico jo'u lo lojbo
toi .i mi xenru lo du'u mi na banzu co sutra tu'a ubu

     --gejyspa


On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 8:08 AM, selpahi <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:

> It's time to clear this up.
>
> I was joking (though I was and am in no way amused).
>
> Nothing new has been approved by the BPFK. I was just trying to see if
> anyone was still paying attention to the mailing list. A few people have
> responded, and I'm happy to see that the responses were very mature, but
> most people seem to simply ignore everything that happens.
>
> Many people only ever speak up when they have something to complain about
> (usually whenever something appears to be changing). Why do none of those
> people ever participate in anything constructive? Why has everyone been
> ignoring la uakci's many attempts at getting the community to participate
> in things like his interactive story or the weekly poems? How hard is it to
> respond with "Nice work, I'm looking forward to the next issue"? You
> managed to frustrate them so much that they have now left the mailing list.
> la uakci is one of the most promising new jbopre in the world, and it is a
> terrible choice to ignore their efforts and risk losing them because they
> receive nothing in return.
>
> la uakci's situation is but one of many similar occurences, all of which
> seem to say nothing but "We don't care about what you do with Lojban and we
> don't do anything with it ourselves either, but don't you dare allow
> anything to change".
>
> If you keep ignoring valuable people, you have no right to be surprised
> when they leave and take their talents elsewhere. Don't complain later when
> you didn't realize that Lojban changed right under your nose but you never
> cared to look. la uakci will keep producing Lojban content but you will no
> longer get to see it.
>
> Lojban belongs in the hands of those who act, and sadly, you are not one
> of them. Why aren't you? And why spoil it for those who actually care?
>
>
> ~~~mi'e la selpa'i
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">oicai =C2=A0ba&#39;u xajmi =C2=A0.i mi zo&#39;onai pupu=
9;o gubysku lo se du&#39;u mi ai cliva le jboce&#39;u ji&#39;e lo cimnytei =
.i mi na ka&#39;e tavla fo le pe&#39;a magbau=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>ni&#=
39;o la uakci zo&#39;u mi zu&#39;edji lo se gunka pe la uakci . i ku&#39;i =
mi ca tcidu lo se samymri be de&#39;i li pare pi&#39;e pi&#39;e =C2=A0pa ku=
 to lo glico jo&#39;u lo lojbo toi .i mi xenru lo du&#39;u mi na banzu co s=
utra tu&#39;a ubu</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--gejyspa</d=
iv><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 8:08 AM, selpahi <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:seladwa@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">seladwa@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span=
> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It&#39;s time to clear this up.<=
br>
<br>
I was joking (though I was and am in no way amused).<br>
<br>
Nothing new has been approved by the BPFK. I was just trying to see if anyo=
ne was still paying attention to the mailing list. A few people have respon=
ded, and I&#39;m happy to see that the responses were very mature, but most=
 people seem to simply ignore everything that happens.<br>
<br>
Many people only ever speak up when they have something to complain about (=
usually whenever something appears to be changing). Why do none of those pe=
ople ever participate in anything constructive? Why has everyone been ignor=
ing la uakci&#39;s many attempts at getting the community to participate in=
 things like his interactive story or the weekly poems? How hard is it to r=
espond with &quot;Nice work, I&#39;m looking forward to the next issue&quot=
;? You managed to frustrate them so much that they have now left the mailin=
g list. la uakci is one of the most promising new jbopre in the world, and =
it is a terrible choice to ignore their efforts and risk losing them becaus=
e they receive nothing in return.<br>
<br>
la uakci&#39;s situation is but one of many similar occurences, all of whic=
h seem to say nothing but &quot;We don&#39;t care about what you do with Lo=
jban and we don&#39;t do anything with it ourselves either, but don&#39;t y=
ou dare allow anything to change&quot;.<br>
<br>
If you keep ignoring valuable people, you have no right to be surprised whe=
n they leave and take their talents elsewhere. Don&#39;t complain later whe=
n you didn&#39;t realize that Lojban changed right under your nose but you =
never cared to look. la uakci will keep producing Lojban content but you wi=
ll no longer get to see it.<br>
<br>
Lojban belongs in the hands of those who act, and sadly, you are not one of=
 them. Why aren&#39;t you? And why spoil it for those who actually care?<di=
v class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
~~~mi&#39;e la selpa&#39;i<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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