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A young couple adopt a German baby. Throughout his childhood the little boy= is perfectly normal, except for the fact he never speaks a single word. Be= ing the caring parents they are, they have him tested by every expert in ev= ery possible way to find out what is wrong with him but nothing ever comes = up. One day, however, shortly after the boy's 5th birthday, after lunch he= suddenly asserts: "This strudel is tepid." His parents are completely puzzled yet amazed: "Heinrich! What's been wrong= ? How come you talk all of a sudden? Why haven't you spoken before?" The boy turns to his parents and replies imperturbably : "Until now, everyt= hing has been satisfactory." >Why do none of those people ever participate in anything constructive? Why= has everyone been ignoring la uakci's many attempts at getting the commun= ity >to participate in things like his interactive story or the weekly poems? Because we don't care about a nebulous idea of "community"; we're not Esper= antists and we're not seeking intercultural exchange. We only want a langua= ge that functions as spoken logic. Had Loglan a greater following and more = materials, it would be chosen instead. >How hard is it to respond with "Nice work, I'm looking forward to the nex= t issue"? You managed to frustrate them so much that they have now l>eft the mailing list. la uakci is one of the most promising new jbopre in= the world, and it is a terrible choice to ignore their efforts and >risk losing them because they receive nothing in return. When you choose an obscure hobby like invented language learning, you can't= do it for accolades or attention. You have to do it because there is somet= hing it offers that natural languages do not. It is a deeply personal and i= solating hobby. >Lojban belongs in the hands of those who act, and sadly, you are not one o= f them. Why aren't you? 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>Many people only ever speak up when= they have something to complain  about (usually whenever something appears to be changing). =


A young couple adopt a German baby. Throughout his childhood the little boy= is perfectly normal, except for the fact he never speaks a single word. Be= ing the caring parents they are, they have him tested by every expert in ev= ery possible way to find out what is wrong with him but nothing ever comes up. One day, however, shortly aft= er the boy’s 5th birthday,  after lunch he suddenly asserts: = 220;This strudel is tepid.”

His parents are completely puzzled yet amazed: “Heinrich! What’= s been wrong? How come you talk all of a sudden? Why haven’t you spok= en before?”

The boy turns to his parents and replies imperturbably : “Until = now, everything has been satisfactory.”



>Why do none of those people ever participate i= n anything constructive? Why has  everyone been ignoring la uakci's ma= ny attempts at getting the community
>to participate in things like his interactive story or the weekly poems= ?

Because we don't care about a nebulous idea of &qu= ot;community"; we're not Esperantists and we're not seeking intercultu= ral exchange. We only want a language that functions as spoken logic. Had L= oglan a greater following and more materials, it would be chosen instead.

>How hard is it to respond with "Nice work= , I'm looking forward to the  next issue"? You managed to frustra= te them so much that they have now
l>eft the mailing list. la uakci is one of the most promising new jbopre= in the world, and it is a terrible choice to ignore their efforts and
>risk losing them because they receive nothing in return.

When you choose an obscure hobby like invented language learning, you can't= do it for accolades or attention. You have to do it because there is somet= hing it offers that natural languages do not. It is a deeply personal and i= solating hobby.


>Lojban belongs in the hands of those who act, and sadly, you are not on= e of them. Why aren't you? And why spoil it for those who actually care?
Lojban belongs only to itself. We are its inheritors, but never its master.=

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