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[2607:f8b0:4003:c06::235]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m19si486616itb.0.2016.09.15.20.42.16 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 15 Sep 2016 20:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::235 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c06::235; Received: by mail-oi0-x235.google.com with SMTP id m11so97312609oif.1 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 20:42:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.202.102.89 with SMTP id a86mr10897230oic.154.1473997336452; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 20:42:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.213.226 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 20:41:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <15723b53847-303-29d5b@webprd-m67.mail.aol.com> References: <089e010d7dde971f0d053c2a8cd7@google.com> <15723b53847-303-29d5b@webprd-m67.mail.aol.com> From: Michael Turniansky Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 23:41:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Digest for lojban@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 2 topics To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1140f740a3c22e053c97bfa8 X-Original-Sender: Mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::235 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mturniansky@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1140f740a3c22e053c97bfa8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 1A is simply padau 1B is pafei These are true for any base higher than 11.... --gejyspa On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:21 AM, 'Terry Sofian' via lojban < lojban@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Can someone help me with counting in base 12 in lojban? What would 1A and > such be? > > Thanks > Terry > > Terry Sofian > tsofian@aol.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: lojban > To: Digest recipients > Sent: Sat, Sep 10, 2016 12:25 pm > Subject: [lojban] Digest for lojban@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 2 > topics > > lojban@googlegroups.com Google Groups > > > Topic digest > View all topics > > - taking action <#m_-7859654032940635420_group_thread_0> - 3 Updates > - a thing or two about the Crash Course > <#m_-7859654032940635420_group_thread_1> - 1 Update > > taking action > > karis : Sep 09 04:31PM -0700 > > Bremenli, > > You said: > > Sketching what the language specifications and requirements must have been > to come up with the language we got. > I'm figuring out whether a better morphophonology could have met the > requirements. It should be much simpler. > > Have you asked lojbab? He understands the process and the specifications > because hewas part of its creation. > > karis > karis : Sep 09 04:31PM -0700 > > Bremenli, > > You said: > > Sketching what the language specifications and requirements must have been > to come up with the language we got. > I'm figuring out whether a better morphophonology could have met the > requirements. It should be much simpler. > > Have you asked lojbab? He understands the process and the specifications > because hewas part of its creation. > > karis > John Clifford : Sep 09 08:15PM -0500 > > He's right, of course. It should be much simpler. But Lojban inherited a > lot from Loglan, including all the mistakes JCB made in the first few days. > The result has been a 60year quest to get back what was thrown away and > that quest has taken the form of countless incremental adjustments, rather > than scrapping the whole thing and starting from just before the first > mistakes. Lojban did also jettison some things Loglan had right, but these > were less significant. > pycyn, who was there before the creation. > > Sent from my iPad > > Back to top <#m_-7859654032940635420_digest_top> > a thing or two about the Crash Course > > karis : Sep 09 05:02PM -0700 > > As a follow-up: > > Have these two courses (Crash Course and Wave Lessons) been clearly > identified as non-official or corrected to it yet? From reading the > entirety of the conversation I believe this was the solution to neither > course being so marked or solely teaching official lojban. I'm posting this > here so the answers are accessible to all. > > [I am currently unable to provide earlier posts along with mine. That is > why I provided short explanatory comments.] > > Karis > Back to top <#m_-7859654032940635420_digest_top> > You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this > group. 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1A is simply padau
1B is pafei

=C2=A0These are true for any base higher than 11....
=C2=A0=C2= =A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --gejyspa


On Tue, Sep 13= , 2016 at 9:21 AM, 'Terry Sofian' via lojban <= lojban@googleg= roups.com> wrote:
Can someone help me with = counting in base 12 in lojban? What would 1A and such be?
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Thanks
Terry
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Terry Sofian
tsofian@aol.com
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From: lojban <lojban@googlegroups.com>
To: Digest recipients <lojban@googlegroups.com>
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karis <comcaresvcs@gmail.com>: Sep 09 04:31PM -0700

Bremenli,
=C2=A0
You said:
=C2=A0
Sketching what the language specifications and requirements must have been = to come up with the language we got.
I'm figuring out whether a better morphophonology could have met the re= quirements. It should be much simpler.
=C2=A0
Have you asked lojbab? He understands the process and the specifications be= cause hewas part of its creation.
=C2=A0
karis
karis <comcaresvcs@gmail.com>: Sep 09 04:31PM -0700

Bremenli,
=C2=A0
You said:
=C2=A0
Sketching what the language specifications and requirements must have been = to come up with the language we got.
I'm figuring out whether a better morphophonology could have met the re= quirements. It should be much simpler.
=C2=A0
Have you asked lojbab? He understands the process and the specifications be= cause hewas part of its creation.
=C2=A0
karis
John Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>: Sep 09 08:15PM -0500

He's right, of course. It should be much simpler. But Lojban i= nherited a lot from Loglan, including all the mistakes JCB made in the firs= t few days. The result has been a 60year quest to get back what was thrown= away and that quest has taken the form of countless incremental adjustment= s, rather than scrapping the whole thing and starting from just before the = first mistakes. Lojban did also jettison some things Loglan had right, but = these were less significant.
pycyn, who was there before the creation.
=C2=A0
Sent from my iPad
=C2=A0
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karis <comcaresvcs@gmail.com>: Sep 09 05:02PM -0700

As a follow-up:
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Have these two courses (Crash Course and Wave Lessons) been clearly identif= ied as non-official or corrected to it yet? From reading the entirety of th= e conversation I believe this was the solution to neither course being so m= arked or solely teaching official lojban. I'm posting this here so the = answers are accessible to all.
=C2=A0
[I am currently unable to provide earlier posts along with mine. That is wh= y I provided short explanatory comments.]
=C2=A0
Karis
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