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[95.210.223.192]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id r8sm1764603wjs.22.2016.09.27.02.47.49 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 27 Sep 2016 02:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [lojban] A Simpler Connective System (blog article) To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <309770757.1620403.1474910440149@mail.yahoo.com> <91a1c1b7-5bfb-dad1-00b7-570fef87e7bb@gmail.com> <5834017c-36b1-448f-3e83-cc9f5cb85861@gmx.de> From: Ilmen Message-ID: <4979f50f-547d-59cf-c871-e4b315f4cb1e@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:47:43 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5834017c-36b1-448f-3e83-cc9f5cb85861@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Sender: ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c09::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - On 27/09/2016 11:19, selpahi wrote: > On 27.09.2016 11:13, Ilmen wrote: >> This parser doesn't implement n-ary forethough connectives terminated >> with {gi'i} though, but the Zantufa parser does implement it: >> >> =E2=80=A2 http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/zantufa-1.html >> >> (However I seem to understand that Solpahi proposes that each {gi} would >> introduce only one new term, with the benefit of requiring the >> connection terminator {gi'i} much less often, whereas in Zantufa, any >> number of bridi terms can appear after each {gi}, so they behave like >> termset connectives, and I suppose {gi'i} is required more often there. >> Please correct me if I misunderstood.) > > {ge mi gi do ti gi ti ta} does not parse in zantufa, but {ge mi ti gi=20 > ti ta tu gi ti ta} does. When you start with a gek-termset then each=20 > connected unit allows an n-ary termset (of arbitrary length) and then=20 > {gi'i} is not elidible if any other terms follow, but if you start=20 > with a unary connectand, then each connected unit also must be unary.=20 > I think. > > ~~~mi'e la solpa'i > Hmm, under Zantufa, {ge ti gi ta gi tu mi} parses as {ge ti gi ta gi tu=20 GIhI mi VAU}, so there when there's only one term in the fist=20 connectand, it does seem to expect one term in each other connectand. However things like {ge ti gi naku ta gi tu mi} parses as {ge ti gi naku=20 ta gi tu mi GIhI VAU}, and {ge ti gi ke ta tu (ke'e) gi do mi}=20 parsefails. Weird. Maybe there's a bug in there. =E2=80=94Ilmen. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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