Received: from mail-pg0-f57.google.com ([74.125.83.57]:34062) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cJdWJ-0001nN-FM for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 01:49:15 -0800 Received: by mail-pg0-f57.google.com with SMTP id l5sf62455786pgh.1 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 01:49:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20161025; h=sender:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=W7KYCkk5BFJezq+D79YpKDfZkBJkIIQTS/Js5kz0mvc=; b=ih+4s0CcYKLNSWNCV7iTeGJMHbXE1hbyb9J9wrhdbsAfYjcnBrxXmSjk3ecoC/5tmr pKKrSFdgLNrvemMA7749NwRpUNoEddkUUzwrt9/rC8UAQ9eHbbIqg0QKMazytaINk+27 hofnbnE3GNsgP9pFuxGXi88ksgaYYU6qdAwm8qMg+LTUZQf8kddh5q07HRTCvIESv4u7 jNBoUsKkUyoIGCFl4gFLFz+ZXDhF6xLSlwZUAIDjA3nmbpVgaaFB99bQtVFReBIhRjgk wZUdsh8/H6GjgBs7W65bLi25DPTThbCIlC+OIH4Oz3ay1xFNuSH4kTPNhtNxyLyDUCp4 +Mkw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=sender:x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to :references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=W7KYCkk5BFJezq+D79YpKDfZkBJkIIQTS/Js5kz0mvc=; b=SAfpDSjSb4ChlRTIyIpleWFNKlegaOIJi8mxMuP9DhDNbIPaW4DYYRLfLKCigOIVq7 2x0gzt9ukPpRIMd2TInjqhEcH0QiEezH4wvLkbQD58daoFxxhgpVhQJTufz/FPtT11E3 VTO2pz/dqkGotKAtwAN1gFG076LjlomkmtyGp0lDkW5jGdc9Q2ttUU9puCixtpiDPiIL T7MSNJk7jYetiIk4pTEbVnL5U7GoQ73CSNRYfZQHCzn3lHcvgV4r2MggIuwQnb/U2vC6 zTPoJ8P0ZrKvhQ1Ii9tzx9rNXgt5qhemfMPztXeclBVSyqL8JlLwomcqt7eM/sD4Vd6M Bh7A== Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXI6ObGw6loHSCsRsdtYGhYx0sgxUMyF8zJCtFV5QEmhZQqoCiVHfeBfac2Yrkk8ug== X-Received: by 10.157.49.66 with SMTP id v2mr229134otd.19.1482313745392; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 01:49:05 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.157.55.165 with SMTP id x34ls17174817otb.8.gmail; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 01:49:05 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.176.65.4 with SMTP id j4mr1504616uad.34.1482313745193; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 01:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.79.151 with SMTP id d145msoib; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 01:45:10 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.157.20.197 with SMTP id r5mr305984otr.9.1482313510394; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 01:45:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 01:45:10 -0800 (PST) From: sozysozbot@gmail.com To: lojban Message-Id: <04c4ad62-0cf3-4b9e-882e-ea9ab25e4e69@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <4a174e16-b53a-46dd-9e06-130b27c52fe0@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: la cmaxes, a minimal morphology parser MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_117_937078715.1482313510221" X-Original-Sender: sozysozbot@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_117_937078715.1482313510221 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_118_1657231556.1482313510221" ------=_Part_118_1657231556.1482313510221 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable but then {darrgu} would be recognized as gismu; I therefore believe this is= =20 a bug, not an intended feature to represent syllabic consonants. (also note that the camxes forbids {darrgu}) 2016=E5=B9=B412=E6=9C=8821=E6=97=A5=E6=B0=B4=E6=9B=9C=E6=97=A5 0=E6=99=8232= =E5=88=8610=E7=A7=92 UTC+9 uakci: > > That's because some people write syllabic consonants with -rr- etc, akin= =20 > to how it was done in Loglan. > > - uak > > On Dec 20, 2016 4:05 PM, "cogas uasanbon" > wrote: > >> >> >> 2015=E5=B9=B412=E6=9C=8825=E6=97=A5=E9=87=91=E6=9B=9C=E6=97=A5 21=E6=99= =8202=E5=88=8619=E7=A7=92 UTC+9 Gleki Arxokuna: >>> >>> Here is a short peg.js parser of morphology of Lojban words. >>> >>> Features: >>> 1. only checks for morphology of words, the rest is thrown away. Hence,= =20 >>> you don't need much prettification, a simple=20 >>> >>> '[["cmavo","coi"],["cmavo","do"],["cmavo","mi"],["gismu","tavla"],["cma= vo","do"]]' >>> is returned. >>> 2. when you need a parser of minimal size. morfologi.js=20 >>> file, the=20 >>> compiled parser ready to use by javascript-compatible apps is under 30= =20 >>> kilobytes of uncompressed (but minified) javascript. >>> 3. can help you study lojban morphology from PEG=20 >>> , which is= =20 >>> easier to grasp when everything else is removed. >>> 4. can help restore omitted spaces within compound cmavo and similar (s= o=20 >>> that you can apply your writing conventions) >>> 5. somewhat faster than the full grammar parser when you run numerous= =20 >>> queries. E.g. this parser is now used in la sutysisku=20 >>> = app=20 >>> to automatically determine to which word class a given dictionary entry= =20 >>> belongs. >>> 6. doesn't support zoi ... zoi quotations (a separate preprocessor=20 >>> needed). >>> 7. http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/morfologi.html >>> >> >> {zarrja}, {zallja}, {zammja}, {zannja} are grammatical in this ilmentufa= .=20 >> Is that a bug? >> >> --=20 >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s=20 >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n=20 >> email to lojban+un...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com=20 >> . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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but then {darrgu} would be recognized as gismu; I therefor= e believe this is a bug, not an intended feature to represent syllabic cons= onants.
(also note that the camxes forbids {darrgu})

2016=E5=B9= =B412=E6=9C=8821=E6=97=A5=E6=B0=B4=E6=9B=9C=E6=97=A5 0=E6=99=8232=E5=88=861= 0=E7=A7=92 UTC+9 uakci:

That's because some people write syllabic consonants with -rr-= etc, akin to how it was done in Loglan.

- uak


On Dec 20, 2016 4:05 PM, "cogas ua= sanbon" <cheeky.c...@gmail.com> wrote:


2015=E5=B9=B412=E6=9C= =8825=E6=97=A5=E9=87=91=E6=9B=9C=E6=97=A5 21=E6=99=8202=E5=88=8619=E7=A7=92= UTC+9 Gleki Arxokuna:
Here is a short peg.js parser of morphology of Lojban words.
=

Features:
1. only checks for morphology of wo= rds, the rest is thrown away. Hence, you don't need much prettification= , a simple=C2=A0
'[["cmavo","coi"],["= ;cmavo","do"],["cmavo","mi"],["= ;gismu","tavla"],["cmavo","do"]]= 9;
is returned.
2. when you need a parser of minimal si= ze.=C2=A0morfologi.js file, the compiled parser ready to use b= y javascript-compatible apps is under 30 kilobytes of uncompressed (but min= ified) javascript.
3. can help you study loj= ban morphology from PEG, which is easier to grasp when everything else = is removed.
4. can help restore omitted spaces within compoun= d cmavo and similar (so that you can apply your writing conventions)
<= div>5. somewhat faster than the full grammar parser when you run numerous q= ueries. E.g. this parser is now used in la sutysisku=C2=A0app t= o automatically determine to which word class a given dictionary entry belo= ngs.
6. doesn't support zoi ... zoi quotations (a separate pr= eprocessor needed).

{zarrja}, {zallja}, {zammja}, {zannja} are grammatical in= this ilmentufa. Is that a bug?

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