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On 16/01/2017 21:59, Joshua Taylor wrote:
> About your comment on stress. I think two years ago (at the time I=20
> first wrote this) I would have disagreed with you, but reading it=20
> again, you're completely right. If I were to start over, I'd be a=20
> little more loose with the syllable counts and put more weight on=20
> lining of the stresses. Though to be fair, my thinking back then, I=20
> remember, was that it would be sung by breaking lojbanic stress rules=20
> when necessary. My reasoning was that while there is a correct and a=20
> wrong way to place stress on lojban jufra, there are no minimal pairs=20
> for stress: it never changes the meaning of anything. Is this correct?

While it is true that there exist no pair of Lojban words distinguished=20
only by a difference in stress position, stressed syllables play an=20
essential role in segmenting a Lojban syllable stream into words :=20
stress is one of Lojban's devices for determining word boundaries.

Let's look at a couple examples:

{SEpliseTAvla} is parsed as {sepli se tavla}, "talked to separately".
But:
{sePLIseTAvla} is parsed as {se plise tavla}, "talk of apple strains".

{dinSAUru} is parsed as {dinsauru} (a single word).
But:
{DINsauru} is parsed as {dinsau ru}, which is the lujvo "dinsau"=20
followed by the pronoun "ru".

Therefore you can effectively change the meaning of a sentence by=20
shifting stress positions.

=E2=80=94Ilmen.


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