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[2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g196si1030602itb.1.2017.06.20.10.51.35 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d; Received: by mail-oi0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id p66so43932923oia.0 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:51:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.202.96.67 with SMTP id u64mr11318266oib.62.1497981095499; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:51:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.230.38 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:50:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <66807550-0bb9-b6a3-c83d-9a3715f413ad@gmail.com> References: <0ea9d258-bfc2-4c45-b66e-7d2387cbbd0b@googlegroups.com> <66807550-0bb9-b6a3-c83d-9a3715f413ad@gmail.com> From: Michael Turniansky Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:50:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] learner's translation of Ferdinand the Bull To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113d4a3213ddd2055267e705" X-Original-Sender: Mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.b=paBEu2OI; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mturniansky@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- --001a113d4a3213ddd2055267e705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" "I hope you would reconsider your decision to use the nonstandard *h* instead of ' " --gejyspa On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Vincent Broman wrote: > doi gejyspa, just wondering -- which do you mean? > a- I hope you will transliterate the text so I can read it more easily. > b- I hope you change your opinion, for the harmony of lojbanistan. > If the latter, we could start a new thread and discuss. > > mihe la bremenli > > > On 06/12/2017 03:27 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > mi'u a'o do datyjdi > > > > Me, too. I hope you'll reconsider. > > > > --gejyspa > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 5:54 AM, MorphemeAddict > > wrote: > > > > Thanks for all that effort! > > > > I personally find 'h' instead of "'" hard to read, after years of > > reading "'". > > > > stevo > > > > On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 8:18 PM, > > wrote: > > > > I have translated into lojban the amusing children's story of > > Ferdinand the Bull, with the intention that it be useful for > > lojban learners. > > The grammar and vocabulary are standard, nothing experimental, > > with minimal use of affix compounds or complex nesting. > > I do prefer "h" to "'". > > > > Here are the release versions of the bilingual English/lojban > > text and the lojban-only text. > > la_fernandos.txt > > https://app.box.com/s/kwi7c4k81ljjvpg2jgn239frw3b17o4v > > > > > > la_fernandos_jbo.txt > > https://app.box.com/s/jx2g0lq6wdcxkkdm5rdchwa4gt9sq89m > > > > > > Here are MP3 readings at a relaxed pace of the lojban text and > > the English-lojban interleaved text. > > These may be good for listening to during your daily commute -- > > I do that to improve my recognition skills! > > The recordings are 13 minutes and 18 minutes, resp. > > > > la_fernandos5.mp3 > > https://app.box.com/s/pe7j6odvrfvuqzp6rl6us8bccbp2w6mm > > > > > > la_fernandos5ej.mp3 > > https://app.box.com/s/x7sjmq171dpx20jrz7v5kcpd24roahd7 > > > > > > Thanks to mezohe for constructive criticism, even if I did not > > take all his advice. > > > > mihe la bremenli > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > Google Groups "lojban" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > > it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > > . > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com > > . > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban > > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > > . > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "lojban" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > > send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > > . > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com > > . > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban > > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > > . > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > > Google Groups "lojban" group. > > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/URGCUbR_Too/unsubscribe. > > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > > . > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com > > . > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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"I hope you would reconsider your decision to use the= nonstandard h instead of ' "

=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 --gejyspa
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
=

On Tue, Jun= 20, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Vincent Broman <vpbroman@gmail.com> = wrote:
doi gejyspa, just wondering -- whi= ch do you mean?
a- I hope you will transliterate the text so I can read it more easily.
b- I hope you change your opinion, for the harmony of lojbanistan.
If the latter, we could start a new thread and discuss.

mihe la bremenli


On 06/12/2017 03:27 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0mi'u a'o do datyjdi
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Me, too.=C2=A0 I hope you'll reconsider.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--gejyspa
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 5:54 AM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com
> <mailto:lytlesw@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks for all that effort!
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I personally find 'h' instead of "'= ;" hard to read, after years of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0reading "'".
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0stevo
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 8:18 PM, <vpbroman@gmail.com
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:vpbroman@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I have translated into lojban the amu= sing children's story of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Ferdinand the Bull, with the intentio= n that it be useful for
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0lojban learners.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The grammar and vocabulary are standa= rd, nothing experimental,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0with minimal use of affix compounds o= r complex nesting.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I do prefer "h" to "&#= 39;".
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Here are the release versions of the = bilingual English/lojban
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0text and the lojban-only text.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0la_fernandos.txt
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://= app.box.com/s/kwi7c4k81ljjvpg2jgn239frw3b17o4v
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<http= s://app.box.com/s/kwi7c4k81ljjvpg2jgn239frw3b17o4v>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0la_fernandos_jbo.txt
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://= app.box.com/s/jx2g0lq6wdcxkkdm5rdchwa4gt9sq89m
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<http= s://app.box.com/s/jx2g0lq6wdcxkkdm5rdchwa4gt9sq89m>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Here are MP3 readings at a relaxed pa= ce of the lojban text and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the English-lojban interleaved text.<= br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0These may be good for listening to du= ring your daily commute --
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I do that to improve my recognition s= kills!
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The recordings are 13 minutes and 18 = minutes, resp.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0la_fernandos5.mp3
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://= app.box.com/s/pe7j6odvrfvuqzp6rl6us8bccbp2w6mm
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<http= s://app.box.com/s/pe7j6odvrfvuqzp6rl6us8bccbp2w6mm>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0la_fernandos5ej.mp3
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://= app.box.com/s/x7sjmq171dpx20jrz7v5kcpd24roahd7
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<http= s://app.box.com/s/x7sjmq171dpx20jrz7v5kcpd24roahd7>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks to mezohe for constructive cri= ticism, even if I did not
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0take all his advice.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mihe la bremenli
>
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