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Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 15:48:40 -0400
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Apologia, using h instead of yhy
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(In the spirit of tinkering; not necessarily to be taken as a serious
proposal...)

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 11:47 PM, guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Because it is only a vowel separator, if a Lojban orthography use, for
> example, {w} {j} {3} for IPA's [w] [j] [=CA=92] respectively, it does not=
 need
> any letter for a vowel separator. in such an orthography,
>

Your basic idea is good, but it's egregious to use a digit as a letter --
especially when there are letters left unused in the Latin alphabet (h,
q)!  Instead one could do this:

For [j] use {j}.
For [w] use {w}.
For /=CA=92/ use {x}.
For /x/ use {h}.


An approach I like better is this:

For [j] use {y}.
For [w] use {w}.
For /=C9=99/ use {x}.
For /x/ use {h}.
For /=CA=92/ continue to use {j} so {.lojban.}'s spelling stays the same.


> {coi fi'i .i ui e'u do lebna pa lo titspi .i ji'a tcati e'u}
> will be
> {coj fii .i wi eu do lebna pa lo titspi .i 3ia tcati eu}.
> Similarly, {ii} will be {ji}, and {ji} will be {3i} in that orthography.
>

{coy fii .i wi eu do lebna pa lo titspi .i jia tcati eu}
{doy .horhes. peipey lo .lojban. tikxgaw to mua mia toy cu lojxpre ji cu
cizxpre zoosay}

Using {q} for /=CA=94/:

{coy fii qi wi qeu do lebna pa lo titspi qi jia tcati qeu}
{doyq horhesq peipey loq lojbanq tikxgaw to mua mia toy cu lojxpre ji cu
cizxpre zoosay}

Ignoring the comma, this system employs all 26 basic Latin letters, plus
the space as a word separator.


> mi'e la guskant
>
>
coo mieq mayk(q)

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<div dir=3D"ltr">(In the spirit of tinkering; not necessarily to be taken a=
s a serious proposal...)<br><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 11:47 PM, guskant <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gusni.kantu@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gusni.=
kantu@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div><div><br></div><div>Because it is=
 only a vowel separator, if a Lojban orthography use, for example, {w} {j} =
{3} for IPA&#39;s [w] [j] [=CA=92] respectively, it does not need any lette=
r for a vowel separator. in such an orthography,=C2=A0</div></div></div></b=
lockquote><div><br><div>Your basic idea is good, but it&#39;s egregious to =
use a digit as a letter -- especially when there are letters left unused in=
 the Latin alphabet  (h, q)!=C2=A0 Instead one could do this:<br><div><br>F=
or [j] use {j}.<br>For [w] use {w}.<br>For /=CA=92/ use {x}.<br></div><div>=
For /x/ use {h}.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div></div><div><br>An appro=
ach I like better is this:<br><br>For [j] use {y}.<br>For [w] use {w}.<br><=
/div><div></div><div></div><div>For /=C9=99/ use {x}.<br></div><div>For /x/=
 use {h}.<br></div><div>For /=CA=92/ continue to use {j} so {.lojban.}&#39;=
s spelling stays the same.<br></div><div></div><br>=C2=A0</div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>{coi fi=
9;i .i ui e&#39;u do lebna pa lo titspi .i ji&#39;a tcati e&#39;u}</div><di=
v>will be=C2=A0</div><div>{coj fii .i wi eu do lebna pa lo titspi .i 3ia tc=
ati eu}.</div><div>Similarly, {ii} will be {ji}, and {ji} will be {3i} in t=
hat orthography.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>{coy fii .i wi =
eu do lebna pa lo titspi .i jia tcati eu}<br></div><div>{doy .horhes. peipe=
y lo .lojban. tikxgaw to mua mia toy cu lojxpre ji cu cizxpre  zoosay}<br><=
/div><div><br></div><div>Using {q} for /<span class=3D"gmail-st">=CA=94</sp=
an>/:<br></div><div><br>{coy fii qi wi qeu do lebna pa lo titspi qi jia tca=
ti qeu}<br><div>{doyq horhesq peipey loq lojbanq tikxgaw to mua mia toy cu =
lojxpre ji cu cizxpre zoosay}<br></div><div><br></div>Ignoring the comma, t=
his system employs all 26 basic Latin letters, plus the space as a word sep=
arator.<br><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div></div><div><br></div><div>mi&#39;e la guskant</div><br></=
div></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all">coo mieq mayk(q) <br><br><br></div=
></div></div></div>

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