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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 15:33:14 +0000
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If you're going to allow cmavo to be combined arbitrarily (which is
probably appropriate), then there's no reason for {lonu} to have its own
entry. So I'd suggest not adding any cmavo clusters.

And {lonulonucalo} can be grammatical, you just need the right text after
it. {lonulonucalo nu jamna kei mi damba cu nandu mi cu se zungi mi}, "I
feel guilty that it was hard for me to fight during the war." As you said,
a fully grammar checker would be needed to really get things right, and
that's a separate problem.

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 6:54 AM <sukender1@gmail.com> wrote:

> coi la .ilmen.
>
> I just applied your idea (added split entries) and added merged entries...
> And I also found a very simple way to add compound cmavo!
> Indeed:
>
>    - I created a script that splits jbovlaste entries into cmavo and
>    non-cmavo, by using a simple regex (using rules listed in the CLL, chapter
>    4.2)
>    - Then I tagged all cmavo with a flag "C", and added the Hunspell rule
>    "CCC*" (~= "CC+"), which means you can "glue" 2 or more cmavo together.
>
> Of course, this will allow un-grammatical things such as "lonulonucalo",
> but once again this is not the spell-checker role.
>
> I tried your example "calonu". It seems the "lonu" entry exists, so my
> dictionary inteprets that as a "normal word" (= non-simple-cmavo) instead
> of a "compound cmavo". But all following combinations are now valid :
>
>    - ca, lo, nu
>    - lo nu, lonu, ca lo, calo
>    - ca lonu, calo nu, calonu
>
> Only calo & calonu are detected as a compound (remember "lonu" is an
> entry), but anyway that works as expected.
> Experimental cmavo support will be added soon.
>
> Do you know other rules that could be great integrating?
> Please test ( https://github.com/Sukender/lojban-spell-check-dist ) and
> give feedback! ki'e
>
> I still have issues with dots in LibreOffice (.i .a and such)... And some
> words of "le cmalu noltru" are not recognized yet. Is there any other word
> source I can use?
>
> co'o
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">If you&#39;re going to allow cmavo to be combined arbitrar=
ily (which is probably appropriate), then there&#39;s no reason for {lonu} =
to have its own entry. So I&#39;d suggest not adding any cmavo clusters.<di=
v><br></div><div>And {lonulonucalo} can be grammatical, you just need the r=
ight text after it. {lonulonucalo nu jamna kei mi damba cu nandu mi cu se z=
ungi mi}, &quot;I feel guilty that it was hard for me to fight during the w=
ar.&quot; As you said, a fully grammar checker would be needed to really ge=
t things right, and that&#39;s a separate problem.</div></div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 6:54 AM &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:sukender1@gmail.com">sukender1@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">coi la .ilmen.<div><br>=
</div><div>I just applied your idea (added split entries) and added merged =
entries... And I also found a very simple way to add compound cmavo!</div><=
div>Indeed:</div><div><ul><li>I created a script that splits jbovlaste entr=
ies into cmavo and non-cmavo, by using a simple regex (using rules listed i=
n the CLL, chapter 4.2)</li><li>Then I tagged all cmavo with a flag &quot;C=
&quot;, and added the Hunspell rule &quot;CCC*&quot; (~=3D &quot;CC+&quot;)=
, which means you can &quot;glue&quot; 2 or more cmavo together.<br></li></=
ul></div><div>Of course, this will allow un-grammatical things such as &quo=
t;lonulonucalo&quot;, but once again this is not the spell-checker role.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>I tried your example &quot;calonu&quot;. It seems th=
e &quot;lonu&quot; entry exists, so my dictionary inteprets that as a &quot=
;normal word&quot; (=3D non-simple-cmavo) instead of a &quot;compound cmavo=
&quot;. But all following combinations are now valid :</div><div><ul><li>ca=
, lo, nu<br></li><li>lo nu, lonu, ca lo, calo</li><li>ca lonu, calo nu, cal=
onu<br></li></ul>Only calo &amp; calonu are detected as a compound (remembe=
r &quot;lonu&quot; is an entry), but anyway that works as expected.<br>Expe=
rimental cmavo support will be added soon.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Do =
you know other rules that could be great integrating?</div><div>Please test=
 (=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://github.com/Sukender/lojban-spell-check-dist" tar=
get=3D"_blank">https://github.com/Sukender/lojban-spell-check-dist</a>=C2=
=A0) and give feedback! ki&#39;e</div><div><br></div><div>I still have issu=
es with dots in LibreOffice (.i .a and such)... And some words of &quot;le =
cmalu noltru&quot; are not recognized yet. Is there any other word source I=
 can use?</div><div><br></div><div>co&#39;o</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v><br></div><div>--=C2=A0</div><div>Sukender</div></div>

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