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coi do

Thanks for sharing. As I'm developing spell checking dictionaries, I have=
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questions...

   - What sources do you use for your database?
   - Do you think it would be wise integrating your entries in my=20
   dictionaries, knowing the fact that I use jbovlaste as a unique source f=
or=20
   now?
   - Do you think there might be some data I  could use to improve spell=20
   checking?

ki'e .i co'o

.i mi'e la .sykyndyr.

Le samedi 12 ao=C3=BBt 2017 03:24:50 UTC+2, Vincent Broman a =C3=A9crit :
>
> In case this might be useful to others, and perhaps in hopes of gathering=
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> helpful diffs/patches if anyone does updates,
> I wanted to share my evolving database on the gismu.
>
> lojban_gismu_dict.txt
> https://app.box.com/s/tq9jcjlrwj5ah21hy0hldhd1bn25wo7m
>
> The format looks like this.
>
> <gismu> <cvc-rafsi>     <ccv-rafsi>     <cvv-rafsi>     #<frequency-rank>
> fanva: <short-gloss>
> morji: <mnemonics-cognates>
> klesi: <gismu-category>
> <predicate-template-with-slots>
> A/fa: <type-of-A>: <A-case-role>: <gloss-for-lo-gismu>
> B/fe: <type-of-B>: <B-case-role>: <gloss-for-lo-se-gismu>
> C/fi: <type-of-C>: <C-case-role>: <gloss-for-lo-te-gismu>
> D/fo: <type-of-D>: <D-case-role>: <gloss-for-lo-ve-gismu>
> E/fu: <type-of-E>: <E-case-role>: <gloss-for-lo-xe-gismu>
> mupli: <example-sentence-filling-all-slots>
> lujvo: <examples-of-short-lujvo-with-these-short-rafsi>
>
> cusku   cus     sku             #14
> fanva: express
> morji: express say
> klesi:=20
> person A expresses or says text B for audience C via expressive medium D;
> A/fa: PRS: ACT: expresser
> B/fe: TXT: PRD: expressed words
> C/fi: PRS: DST: audience
> D/fo: THI: INS: expressive medium
> mupli: le gunka jatna cu cusku se duhu miha ba mutce gunka kei miha lo=20
> samselmri
> lujvo: cuskahi cuskuhi skudji skuspu biksku cnisku
>
> The short glosses are the actual English text one would put in between=20
> x1/A and x2/B, usually without a leading "is" or a trailing "of".
> The gismu categories are a future enhancement not yet present.
> The definition templates in many cases are simplified from the prolix=20
> definitions usually found.
> The argument types and cases have mnemonics defined in the following=20
> lists. They are pretty debatable.
>
> types-cases.txt
> https://app.box.com/s/26vo9vgncz0f1xrnukc79l8ftl7bczo5
>
> The database includes all the standard gismu and defs, but a lot of other=
=20
> info in it is very incomplete.
> I am in process of adding in many of la gleki's example sentences from hi=
s=20
> dictionary, which are useful for learning.
> Enjoy.
>
> mihe bremenli
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>coi do</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for sharing. A=
s I&#39;m developing spell checking dictionaries, I have questions...</div>=
<div><ul><li>What sources do you use for your database?</li><li>Do you thin=
k it would be wise integrating your entries in my dictionaries, knowing the=
 fact that I use jbovlaste as a unique source for now?</li><li>Do you think=
 there might be some data I =C2=A0could use to improve spell checking?</li>=
</ul></div><div>ki&#39;e .i co&#39;o</div><div><br></div><div>.i mi&#39;e l=
a .sykyndyr.</div><br>Le samedi 12 ao=C3=BBt 2017 03:24:50 UTC+2, Vincent B=
roman a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">In case this might be useful to others, and perhaps in hopes of=
 gathering helpful diffs/patches if anyone does updates,<br>I wanted to sha=
re my evolving database on the gismu.<br><br>lojban_gismu_dict.txt<br><a hr=
ef=3D"https://app.box.com/s/tq9jcjlrwj5ah21hy0hldhd1bn25wo7m" target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"nofollow" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D&#39;https://www.google.co=
m/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Ftq9jcjlrwj5ah21hy0hldhd1bn25wo7m=
\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNHTF58nTSWY0FIsTJHP6E1e-RizNQ&#39;;=
return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dh=
ttps%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2Ftq9jcjlrwj5ah21hy0hldhd1bn25wo7m\x26sa\x3dD\=
x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNHTF58nTSWY0FIsTJHP6E1e-RizNQ&#39;;return true;=
">https://app.box.com/s/<wbr>tq9jcjlrwj5ah21hy0hldhd1bn25wo<wbr>7m</a><br><=
br>The format looks like this.<br><br>&lt;gismu&gt; &lt;cvc-rafsi&gt;=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 &lt;ccv-rafsi&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 &lt;cvv-rafsi&=
gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 #&lt;frequency-rank&gt;<br>fanva: &lt;short-glo=
ss&gt;<br>morji: &lt;mnemonics-cognates&gt;<br>klesi: &lt;gismu-category&gt=
;<br>&lt;predicate-template-with-<wbr>slots&gt;<br>A/fa: &lt;type-of-A&gt;:=
 &lt;A-case-role&gt;: &lt;gloss-for-lo-gismu&gt;<br>B/fe: &lt;type-of-B&gt;=
: &lt;B-case-role&gt;: &lt;gloss-for-lo-se-gismu&gt;<br>C/fi: &lt;type-of-C=
&gt;: &lt;C-case-role&gt;: &lt;gloss-for-lo-te-gismu&gt;<br>D/fo: &lt;type-=
of-D&gt;: &lt;D-case-role&gt;: &lt;gloss-for-lo-ve-gismu&gt;<br>E/fu: &lt;t=
ype-of-E&gt;: &lt;E-case-role&gt;: &lt;gloss-for-lo-xe-gismu&gt;<br>mupli: =
&lt;example-sentence-filling-all-<wbr>slots&gt;<br>lujvo: &lt;examples-of-s=
hort-lujvo-with-<wbr>these-short-rafsi&gt;<br><br>cusku=C2=A0=C2=A0 cus=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 sku=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 #14<br>fanva: express<br>morji: express say<br>kle=
si: <br>person A expresses or says text B for audience C via expressive med=
ium D;<br>A/fa: PRS: ACT: expresser<br>B/fe: TXT: PRD: expressed words<br>C=
/fi: PRS: DST: audience<br>D/fo: THI: INS: expressive medium<br>mupli: le g=
unka jatna cu cusku se duhu miha ba mutce gunka kei miha lo samselmri<br>lu=
jvo: cuskahi cuskuhi skudji skuspu biksku cnisku<br><br>The short glosses a=
re the actual English text one would put in between x1/A and x2/B, usually =
without a leading &quot;is&quot; or a trailing &quot;of&quot;.<br>The gismu=
 categories are a future enhancement not yet present.<br>The definition tem=
plates in many cases are simplified from the prolix definitions usually fou=
nd.<br>The argument types and cases have mnemonics defined in the following=
 lists. They are pretty debatable.<br><br>types-cases.txt<br><a href=3D"htt=
ps://app.box.com/s/26vo9vgncz0f1xrnukc79l8ftl7bczo5" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"nofollow" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\=
x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2F26vo9vgncz0f1xrnukc79l8ftl7bczo5\x26sa\x=
3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFCoXEh47Qa_JKxgyRxPB3TfQVJ2Q&#39;;return t=
rue;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D&#39;https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%=
2F%2Fapp.box.com%2Fs%2F26vo9vgncz0f1xrnukc79l8ftl7bczo5\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\=
x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNFCoXEh47Qa_JKxgyRxPB3TfQVJ2Q&#39;;return true;">https:=
//app.box.com/s/<wbr>26vo9vgncz0f1xrnukc79l8ftl7bcz<wbr>o5</a><br><br>The d=
atabase includes all the standard gismu and defs, but a lot of other info i=
n it is very incomplete.<br>I am in process of adding in many of la gleki&#=
39;s example sentences from his dictionary, which are useful for learning.<=
br>Enjoy.<br><br>mihe bremenli<br><br></div></blockquote></div>

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