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Indeed, this (more-or-less) open source code is used as a foundation layer, acting ontop of a blockchain to replace "trusted" 3rd parties. This is the same principle with cryptocurrencies, but here instead of using blockchain transactions for *money* (replacing the bank as a trusted 3rd party), "smart contracts" and other (non-financial) "validated transactions" are used as a base for software (named "dApps"). Said otherwise, you will still have to finance the blockchain construction & validation, even if source code is open. [...] Content analysis details: (0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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This is not really the issue actually. Indeed, this=20 (more-or-less) open source code is used as a foundation layer, acting ontop= =20 of a blockchain to replace "trusted" 3rd parties. This is the same=20 principle with cryptocurrencies, but here instead of using blockchain=20 transactions for *money* (replacing the bank as a trusted 3rd party),=20 "smart contracts" and other (non-financial) "validated transactions" are=20 used as a base for software (named "dApps"). Said otherwise, you will still= =20 have to finance the blockchain construction & validation, even if source=20 code is open. ( I hope my explanation is correct! ) Cheers, Sukender Le jeudi 12 octobre 2017 13:35:18 UTC+2, Gleki Arxokuna a =C3=A9crit : > > > > Em quarta-feira, 11 de outubro de 2017 17:25:09 UTC+3, Robin Powell=20 > escreveu: >> >> Nope. It's just something I bumped into. Similarly=20 >> https://www.holacracy.org/how-it-works/=20 >> =20 >> > > Maybe one can just find an open source alternative to them? > =20 > >> >> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 02:41:27AM -0700, suke...@gmail.com wrote:=20 >> > Hi Robin,=20 >> >=20 >> > The global concept of an open "meritocracy" sounds good, and may be=20 >> adapted=20 >> > for whatever people could bring to Lojban. However, Colony.io's=20 >> business=20 >> > model is not perfectly clear to me. Moreover, it seems heavily tied=20 >> with=20 >> > ETH crypto-currency and Ethereal technology (which are rather new to= =20 >> me,=20 >> > too).=20 >> > This makes me a bit suspicious (yeah, I just can't fully trust things = I=20 >> > don't understand!)... Do you have information that may clarify all of= =20 >> this?=20 >> >=20 >> > Thanks.=20 >> >=20 >> > --=20 >> > Sukender=20 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > Le lundi 9 octobre 2017 01:28:59 UTC+2, Robin Powell a =C3=A9crit :=20 >> > >=20 >> > >=20 >> > > https://colony.io/=20 >> > >=20 >> > > Seems like the sort of thing that might help small/volunteer orgs=20 >> > > like the Lojban community get more done.=20 >> > >=20 >> > >=20 >> >=20 >> > --=20 >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google=20 >> Groups "lojban" group.=20 >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send= =20 >> an email to lojban+un...@googlegroups.com.=20 >> > To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com.=20 >> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban.=20 >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.=20 >> >> --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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Gleki, as far as I understood from the docs, those pl= atforms are (or will be) open sourced. This is not really the issue actuall= y. Indeed, this (more-or-less) open source code is used as a foundation lay= er, acting ontop of a blockchain to replace "trusted" 3rd parties= . This is the same principle with cryptocurrencies, but here instead of usi= ng blockchain transactions for money=C2=A0(replacing the bank as a t= rusted 3rd party), "smart contracts" and other (non-financial) &q= uot;validated transactions" are used as a base for software (named &qu= ot;dApps"). Said otherwise, you will still have to finance the blockch= ain construction & validation, even if source code is open.
<= br>
( I hope my explanation is correct! )

Cheers,

Sukender

Le jeudi 12 octobre 2017 13:35:18 U= TC+2, Gleki Arxokuna a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:


Em quarta-feira, 11 de outubro de 2017 1= 7:25:09 UTC+3, Robin Powell escreveu:
Nope. =C2=A0It's just something I bumped into. =C2=A0Similarly
https://www.holacracy.org/how-it-works/

Maybe one can just find an open source= alternative to them?
=C2=A0

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 02:41:27AM -0700, suke...@g= mail.com wrote:
> Hi Robin,
>=20
> The global concept of an open "meritocracy" sounds good,= and may be adapted=20
> for whatever people could bring to Lojban. However, Colony.io'= s business=20
> model is not perfectly clear to me. Moreover, it seems heavily tie= d with=20
> ETH crypto-currency and Ethereal technology (which are rather new = to me,=20
> too).
> This makes me a bit suspicious (yeah, I just can't fully trust= things I=20
> don't understand!)... Do you have information that may clarify= all of this?
>=20
> Thanks.
>=20
> --=20
> Sukender
>=20
>=20
> Le lundi 9 octobre 2017 01:28:59 UTC+2, Robin Powell a =C3=A9crit = :
> >
> >
> > https://colony.i= o/=20
> >
> > Seems like the sort of thing that might help small/volunteer = orgs=20
> > like the Lojban community get more done.=20
> >
> >
>=20
> --=20
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