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While I wrote the original, in CLL lojban= ,=20 > and I CC-BY'ed it, this so-called "modern lojban" version I abjure and wa= nt=20 > no part of. Because it looks like from the webpage that I created that= =20 > version. I did not, and there is no "credit" (read "blame") for the pers= on=20 > who actually did the translating into so-called "modern lojban". So if t= he=20 > person who did that would kindly attach their own name as the translator,= =20 > I'd appreciate it. > > --Michael "gejyspa" Turniansky > > doi .i'i la gejyspa That's very bad violation of your copyright. I have been deceived by the=20 phrase {i la .maikl. turniianskis. di'e finti gi'e fanva} in the "modern=20 Lojban" version of the text. You made the original text attributed to=20 CC-BY-NC, then the "modern Lojban" version must have contained a notice=20 about the modification and a link to the original version, though actually= =20 it is not treated in that way.=20 mi'e la guskant=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_10980_1786040779.1509931060443 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Le dimanche 5 novembre 2017 21:17:00 UTC, gejyspa = a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
=C2=A0 Well, I for one=C2=A0 am annoyed.=C2=A0 While I wrote the orig= inal, in CLL lojban, and I CC-BY'ed it, this so-called "modern loj= ban" version I abjure and want no part of.=C2=A0 Because it looks like= from the webpage that I created that version.=C2=A0 I did not, and there i= s no "credit" (read "blame") for the person who actuall= y did the translating into so-called "modern lojban".=C2=A0 So if= the person who did that would kindly attach their own name as the translat= or, I'd appreciate it.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --Michael "gejyspa" Turniansky



doi= .i'i la gejyspa

That's very bad violation= of your copyright. I have been deceived by the phrase {i la .maikl. turnii= anskis. di'e finti gi'e fanva} in the "modern Lojban" ver= sion of the text. You made the original text attributed to CC-BY-NC, then t= he "modern Lojban" version must have contained a notice about the= modification and a link to the original version, though actually it is not= treated in that way.=C2=A0

mi'e la guskant=C2= =A0

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