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[2607:f8b0:4002:c05::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z126si922685pfz.2.2017.11.05.18.47.19 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Nov 2017 18:47:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4002:c05::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4002:c05::231; Received: by mail-yw0-x231.google.com with SMTP id k3so6714221ywk.8 for ; Sun, 05 Nov 2017 18:47:19 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.129.174.80 with SMTP id g16mr9255653ywk.153.1509936438169; Sun, 05 Nov 2017 18:47:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.230.66 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Nov 2017 18:47:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jonathan Jones Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2017 19:47:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] CLL and modern Lojban To: lojban@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045f6eb607d659055d477914" X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=U4AS9AKw; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4002:c05::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=eyeonus@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Spam_score: -4.1 X-Spam_score_int: -40 X-Spam_bar: ---- --f403045f6eb607d659055d477914 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The CLL version has a link to the "modern" one, actually. On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:17 PM, guskant wrote: > > > Le dimanche 5 novembre 2017 21:17:00 UTC, gejyspa a =C3=A9crit : >> >> Well, I for one am annoyed. While I wrote the original, in CLL >> lojban, and I CC-BY'ed it, this so-called "modern lojban" version I abju= re >> and want no part of. Because it looks like from the webpage that I crea= ted >> that version. I did not, and there is no "credit" (read "blame") for th= e >> person who actually did the translating into so-called "modern lojban". = So >> if the person who did that would kindly attach their own name as the >> translator, I'd appreciate it. >> >> --Michael "gejyspa" Turniansky >> >> > > doi .i'i la gejyspa > > That's very bad violation of your copyright. I have been deceived by the > phrase {i la .maikl. turniianskis. di'e finti gi'e fanva} in the "modern > Lojban" version of the text. You made the original text attributed to > CC-BY-NC, then the "modern Lojban" version must have contained a notice > about the modification and a link to the original version, though actuall= y > it is not treated in that way. > > mi'e la guskant > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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The CLL version has a link to the "modern" one, = actually.

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:17 PM, guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:


Le dimanche 5 novembre 2017 21:17:00 UTC, gejyspa a =C3= =A9crit=C2=A0:
=C2= =A0 Well, I for one=C2=A0 am annoyed.=C2=A0 While I wrote the original, in = CLL lojban, and I CC-BY'ed it, this so-called "modern lojban"= version I abjure and want no part of.=C2=A0 Because it looks like from the= webpage that I created that version.=C2=A0 I did not, and there is no &quo= t;credit" (read "blame") for the person who actually did the= translating into so-called "modern lojban".=C2=A0 So if the pers= on who did that would kindly attach their own name as the translator, I'= ;d appreciate it.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 --Michael "gejyspa" Turniansky
<= div>


doi .i= 'i la gejyspa

That's very bad violation of= your copyright. I have been deceived by the phrase {i la .maikl. turniians= kis. di'e finti gi'e fanva} in the "modern Lojban" versio= n of the text. You made the original text attributed to CC-BY-NC, then the = "modern Lojban" version must have contained a notice about the mo= dification and a link to the original version, though actually it is not tr= eated in that way.=C2=A0

mi'e la guskant=C2=A0=

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