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Therefore some= =20 changes will be necessary. This is what called "evolution". - Forking may be interesting. It may be an pure experiment, a "feature= =20 branch", a fix, etc. - Reintegrating a branch to the core actually changes the core! This is= =20 why it must be done *very carefully*, in order to not break initial=20 intents of the language. I hope I mad myself clearer :-) Le mardi 7 novembre 2017 09:59:20 UTC+1, stevo a =C3=A9crit : > > sykynder: You mention re-integrating forks back into the core language.= =20 > How do you change something and then make it the same as it was before? A= nd=20 > why would you want to?=20 > =20 > stevo > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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@stevo: Sorry I don't understand the "make i= t the same as it was before". From my point of view:
    Establishing language rules "forever" is not possible. Therefore= some changes will be necessary. This is what called "evolution".=
  • Forking may be interesting. It may be an pure experiment, a "= feature branch", a fix, etc.
  • Reintegrating a branch to the cor= e actually changes the core! This is why it must be done very carefully<= /b>, in order to not break initial intents of the language.
= I hope I mad myself clearer :-)



Le mardi 7 novem= bre 2017 09:59:20 UTC+1, stevo a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
sykynder: You mention re-integrating forks back into the core la= nguage. How do you change something and then make it the same as it was bef= ore? And why would you want to?=C2=A0
=C2=A0
stevo

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